Episode summary
Stocks Bounce on Trump’s Iran Peace Push | Bloomberg Surveillance
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· · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Richard Clarida, Tina Fordham, Brian Belski, Francois Trahan
Summary
The discussion centered on how the Iran conflict, oil price shock, and U.S. policy backdrop are interacting with markets and the Fed. A guest argued that the economy remains distinctly K-shaped: households with homes and stocks have done well, while a substantial share of the country has not, and lower rates can reinforce that divide by lifting asset prices even as they support employment. He said the Fed is likely to step back for now, with some members still expecting at least one cut this year and next year, while a pending change in leadership could eventually bring further easing.
The foreign-policy segment emphasized that the peace talk remains highly uncertain, with Iran appearing stronger than expected and the Strait of Hormuz still the key economic choke point. The guest said the oil shock could cool political and economic conditions for months even if fighting stops quickly, and argued that declaring victory would not resolve the underlying leverage problem.
On markets, the guests leaned constructive on equities but more selective. One said investors have cash to put to work and should not feel obliged to own everything, favoring a broadening market with more earnings-driven leadership, smaller caps, financials, industrials, and selected software and AI beneficiaries. Another said AI will not yet offset inflation pressures in 2026 because adoption is still concentrated in large firms, while tariffs and stimulus could keep inflation firmer than expected.
Key takeaways
- A guest said the U.S. economy remains K-shaped, with asset owners benefiting while many workers still lag.
- The guest expects the Fed to mostly wait and see for now, though most committee members still see at least one cut this year and next year.
- Tina Fordham argued that Iran appears to have more leverage than expected and that the Strait of Hormuz remains the central economic flashpoint.
- Brian Belski said investors should expect a broader, earnings-driven market and prefer small caps, financials and industrials over trying to own everything.
- Francois Trahan said AI will not yet prevent higher inflation in 2026 because small business adoption is still limited.
- Trahan also said U.S. equities are resilient, but the S&P 500 is now a more growth-heavy index than it used to be.
Notable quotes
“We're definitely in a K-shaped um economy. I think we've been moving in that direction for for 30 years”
“when it lowers rates, it's going to support the labor market, which is good. And for a lot of people that that is their stake in the economy is their job”
“It is interesting though that they did indicate that most of the members of the committee still see at least one cut this year and next year as appropriate”
“Iran, having been presumed to be a a weak military force, actually finds itself with more leverage than anybody thought right now”
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Okay, folks. what we're going to talk about here. We're not going to talk DSG. We're not going to talk integrals within integrals or derivatives, the mathiness that Richard Clar has acclaimed for, the former vice chairman of the Fed. I don't want to know when the Fed's going to cut rates or all that. We're going to talk about what you did at Colombia.
Okay. — Richard Clar folks went into Colombia with some massive hires and retention of one of the best faculties in the planet. It goes back to Louven and Belgium. It goes back to some of the way back work in uh Germany and of course the combine out of England as well. You retained a Laurate Stiglets.
Yeah.
You dealt with Jeff Sachs with all of his ability and that you have Ned Phelps with this massive eclectic uh view over over time. Colombia owns the social analysis. Good morning Chicago and Mr.
Becker. You own the social analysis of this K-shaped economy. Jeff Sachs wrote a book 20 years ago, I'm gonna say that was way out front on this.
How K-shaped are we when you talk to your friends and and uh Romans and countrymen in Colombia? How K-shaped are we now, Dr. Claire?
Well, and also you you left out uh Bob Bob Mandal, truly a giant in international monetary uh e economics. So, it certainly has been a treat to be at Colombia all these years. We're definitely in a K-shaped um economy.
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Topics
- iran peace talks
- fed path
- geopolitical risk
- oil price shock inflation
- us equities resilience
Companies and tickers mentioned
- BMO
- PIMCO
- Fordham Global Foresight
- Humilis Investment Strategies
- BMO Capital Markets
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