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Trump Tariff Defeat Throws Trade Deals Into Doubt | Bloomberg Surveillance

Bloomberg Surveillance · · 34 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Eswar Prasad, Torsten Slok, Martha Gimbel, Janno Lieber

Trump Tariff Defeat Throws Trade Deals Into Doubt | Bloomberg Surveillance – Bloomberg Surveillance

Summary

The episode centered on the Supreme Court’s ruling that undercut the Trump administration’s use of emergency authority to impose broad tariffs, and the panel argued that the decision has re-opened a wide field of uncertainty for trade, markets and business planning. The guest said the ruling reinforces separation of powers, but also leaves the administration searching for other tools to reimpose tariffs, which means global trading partners may simply wait rather than rush to renegotiate.

The discussion repeatedly returned to how unstable the tariff regime has become. The guest at Yale Budget Lab said the effective tariff rate moved through several levels in just 36 hours, while warning that businesses mainly care about which products and countries will ultimately be covered. The guest also argued that tariffs are regressive and, when combined with the one big beautiful bill act, leave lower- and middle-income consumers more constrained while only higher-income households come out ahead on net.

Apollo’s chief economist said the US economy is still being supported by AI spending, an industrial renaissance, tax changes and immediate expensing, even as trade policy adds risk. The final segment shifted to the winter storm in New York, where the MTA chair said subway and bus service were largely running, but the Long Island Rail Road was suspended and drifting snow remained the main operational challenge.

Key takeaways

  • The host and Eswar Prasad framed the Supreme Court ruling as a separation-of-powers check that weakens the Trump administration’s broad tariff authority.
  • Torsten Slok said Europe will honor existing trade deals for now, but the 15% tariff framework creates fresh uncertainty because it lasts 150 days and covers every US trading partner.
  • Martha Gimbel said tariffs are regressive and, combined with the one big beautiful bill act, leave lower-income consumers more exposed to higher prices and weaker spending power.
  • Gimbel said the effective tariff rate bounced from 16% to 9%, then to 15%, then 12%, and back to 14% over roughly 36 hours, underscoring policy volatility.
  • Slok argued the US economy is still supported by AI, industrial reshoring, tax refunds and immediate expensing, even as tariff risk raises the chance of a harder landing.

Notable quotes

“It is a very important uh assertion of the um court's authority in terms of making sure that the separation of powers”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 0:32

“Patience. Um, I think the key issue right now is how this is going to play out”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 1:26

“the reality is that nobody quite knows right now what the trade landscape is going to look like”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 2:23

“there's just a lot of things the dust has really been wled up. we really open up the macroeconomic textbook in international finance”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 12:26

“you know, it's not going uh to be great for anyone, but tariffs are also regressive. It's much much worse uh for people at the bottom”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 18:33

How the episode opens

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Eastern on Apple CarPlay or Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. Ezra Prasad with his magisterial book, The Doom Loop of Cornell on Trade.

Professor, what is a single thing you would say to a freshman class at Cornell this morning about this court decision? It is a very important uh assertion of the um court's authority in terms of making sure that the separation of powers between the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch, you know, stays in place. There has been a lot of concern about the rule of law and what um is being done to that.

But it's very good that the Supreme Court really put its foot down and made it clear that at least the specific authority that President Trump has been using to invoke uh uh tariffs against a broad range of trading partners that's not quite on.

You do this, you get on planes and you go advise the French, the Germans, you advise Singapore. What is your advice to the continent of Europe as they respond to this trade bombshell?

Patience. Um, I think the key issue right now is how this is going to play out. Uh, the Trump administration has made it abundantly clear that it's going to use other tools that it has in its arsenal in order to reimpose tariffs uh at one level or the other.

Um, but the question of how effectively they can do it, how broadly they can do it and how quickly they can do it, I think it's really on the table right now.

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Topics

  • trump tariffs
  • ieepa tariffs supreme court ruling
  • us trade policy uncertainty
  • tariff price impact forecast
  • winter storm transit service

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • APO
  • Apollo Global Management

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