Episode summary
Matthew Dicks – Storytelling Mastery (EP.477)
Capital Allocators with Ted Seides
· · Hosts: Ted Seides · Guests: Matthew Dicks
Summary
Matthew Dicks argues that strong storytelling is not improvisation but disciplined design: start with location and action, choose the right ending first, and use only the details that serve the audience. He says most bad stories are linear, overloaded with explanation, and told from the speaker’s point of view instead of the listener’s. His preferred structure is to create stakes, suspense, surprise, and humor so the audience keeps leaning in.
He traces his own path from deconstructing movies as a child to becoming a Moth performer, then to teaching storytelling workshops and writing Storyworthy. That teaching led him to formalize methods like “homework for life,” a daily practice of noticing and recording moments that might become stories later. He says the process revealed that ordinary lives contain far more usable material than people realize, provided they pay attention.
For business settings, Dicks insists leaders should think in terms of performance, not presentation. He argues that audiences want to be entertained, that humor can build credibility, and that the best business stories borrow the same mechanics as personal ones. He also distinguishes between what a speaker wants to say and what an audience actually wants to hear, especially for investors or customers.
Key takeaways
- Matthew Dicks says the best stories begin with “where was I and what was I doing,” because location and action immediately activate the audience.
- He argues that the ending should be chosen first, since the end defines the meaning and transformation of the story.
- Dicks says “homework for life” helps him and thousands of others mine daily experience for stories before they are forgotten.
- He believes business leaders should stop saying “presentation” and think of every talk as a performance.
- Dicks says effective storytelling relies on stakes, suspense, surprise, and humor used strategically, not randomly.
Notable quotes
“No one ever wakes up in the morning hoping to see a presentation, but they do wake up every morning hoping to see a performance”
“The opening of every story is the key to unlocking the story”
“If the detail does not serve the story, if it does not help me get to the end, if it does not bring something to clarity or entertain, then it goes away”
“So we have to get rid of those. We have to get rid of things like guess what”
How the episode opens
No one ever wakes up in the morning hoping to see a presentation, but they do wake up every morning hoping to see a performance. So, get rid of that word for sure. When you use the word presentation, it allows you to use teleprompterss and slide decks as teleprompterss.
A performance requires preparation. It's an acknowledgement that there's an audience and it's an acknowledgement that regardless of what you're doing, you should be entertaining. So, get rid of the word presentation.
Assume you're doing a performance. Then, suddenly, you're going to discover I have to prepare. I have to be entertaining.
I have to recognize the audience wants something from me that is different than maybe what I want to say. If you're just doing a presentation, you might as well just get a slide deck and have a monkey read it because that's essentially what a presentation is. I'm Ted Sides and this is Capital Allocators.
My guest on today's show is Matthew Dixs, best-selling author, award-winning storyteller, and consultant on storytelling to Fortune 500 companies, including four of the MAG 7 and nonprofits, including Yale, Harvard, and the FBI. His best-selling books, StoryWorthy, and its business companion, Story Sells, are my very favorite books on storytelling. Matt spent a decade as a manager at McDonald's, 20 years as a wedding DJ, and will retire this year after 27 years as a middle school teacher.
He's written six fiction and three non-fiction books in total and won a record 62 Moth Story Slam competitions and nine Grand Slam Championships. Our conversation starts where it should with Matt telling a story. We then go through his process of finding great stories, constructing the beginning, end, and path along the way, enhancing elements, and giving presentations.
Matt has gifts for both storytelling and teaching, and that combination offers incredible lessons to apply storytelling in our work.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- storytelling
- story process
- presentations
- teaching
- business storytelling
Companies and tickers mentioned
- MCD
- McDonald's
Watch the episode
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