Episode summary
Having the bond market regulate the AI trade is a big positive, says Ed Yardeni
Summary
Ed Yardeni argues that the recent tightening in AI-related credit is a healthy market discipline, not a threat to the theme. He says the bond market is finally paying attention to credit quality, forcing weaker AI borrowers to pay more and pushing capital toward better risks. In his view, that can slow excess spending, reduce bubble risk, and make the AI build-out more sustainable.
He says the selloff and spread widening around some AI credits may be overdone, and that the market may be sorting out which companies have legitimate businesses and which do not. Yardeni is watching cloud revenue and backlog closely, especially at companies like Amazon and Meta, because those cash flows are helping finance data-center spending. He says the free cash flow is being absorbed by AI infrastructure, but that demand and earnings momentum remain strong.
On the broader market, Yardeni keeps a constructive long-term view but thinks higher-for-longer rates, stickier inflation, and another two Fed hikes could pressure valuations. He reiterated a 7900 year-end target, said 8400 by mid-2027 is more realistic, and still sees 10,000 by the end of the decade.
Key takeaways
- Yardeni says the bond market is doing a better job than rating agencies of policing AI credit risk, which he calls a positive for capital allocation.
- He thinks tighter AI financing could slow overheated projects and reduce the odds of a bubble, rather than puncture the whole trade.
- Yardeni says cloud revenue and backlog at firms like Amazon and Meta are key metrics because they help fund AI data-center capex.
- He expects the Fed could deliver two more rate increases as oil stays higher for longer and inflation remains sticky.
- Yardeni’s S&P 500 views are 7900 for year-end, 8400 by mid-2027, and 10,000 by the end of the decade.
Notable quotes
“WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CLOUD REVENUES ARE. AND WE WANT TO SEE A REALLY HEALTHY GROWTH RATE THERE”
“I THINK THE FED'S GOING TO GIVE US TWO MORE RATE INCREASES”
“I FELT INSPIRED TO COME UP WITH AN ACRONYM, FIMO FABULOUS EARNINGS MOMENTUM”
How the episode opens
In — In his latest note, our next guest says the bond vigilantes are now doing a good job of regulating and allocating capital to the ai ecosystem. Here to explain is Ed Yardeni himself. He is the president of Yardeni Research. And lay it out. What are you talking about?
Well, the bond market is finally paying attention to credit quality in the bond market for a for ai credits, which is good. I mean, it's good if the bond market gets ahead of the credit rating agencies and really assesses the riskiness. So if that's the case, then the allocation of capital should be more efficient, and the doge year credits will have to pay a lot more.
And that might slow them down, which I think having the bond market regulate the the ai trade is, is a big positive.
You're referring to what happened last week with corwin and then bled through to a lot of the. — Sudden, you know, the bond market woke up and realized that not all these credits, just because they they were all ai related didn't didn't mean they were all triple-a. Quite the opposite.
So there are some people who worry that this was going to puncture the ai build out. You're saying maybe this prevents an implosion?
Yeah. I don't know what we're rooting for anymore. You know, for a while there, everybody got absolutely concerned that we were building too fast.
And now the market is going to regulate that. I think that's that's a positive for the economy, for eliminating or reducing the risk of a bubble. I think over the past few weeks, we've sort of eliminated the 1999 2000 analogy for that kind of bubble.
And I think over the past week or so, we've really kind of shown a path that is sustainable in terms of credit access to for ai companies.
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Topics
- ai trade
- bond market regulation
- capital allocation
- market outlook
- ai ecosystem
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Yardeni Research
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