Episode summary

Private Markets, Fund of Funds & the Future of Wealth Management with Samir Kaji of Allocate

Dakota Live! · · 57 min · Hosts: Robert Morier · Guests: Samir Kaji

Private Markets, Fund of Funds & the Future of Wealth Management with Samir Kaji of Allocate – Dakota Live!

Summary

Samir Kaji argues that private markets are moving into wealth management, but access alone is not enough. The bigger challenge is manager selection: in private equity and venture capital, dispersion is wide, so advisors need curation, not a marketplace full of undifferentiated choices. He says Allocate was built as a full-stack operating system to help wealth firms source, build, execute, and manage private markets portfolios while reducing workflow friction and data loss from stitching together point solutions.

Kaji frames the growth opportunity as both structural and selective. He believes the wealth channel could eventually capture $4 trillion to $5 trillion of the next wave of private markets capital, but only if advisors are educated and willing to move beyond brand-name managers. He warns against the “track record trap,” saying headline performance often hides changes in team, strategy, or fund size. Instead, Allocate underwrites the people, their decision-making, and whether past success is actually repeatable.

He also makes a case for fund of funds in the right situations, especially when they save time, simplify administration, and access top-tier managers in high-dispersion asset classes. On fees, he says good managers should not be rejected for slightly higher costs if the expected net return is better. More broadly, he argues that liquidity solutions, secondary markets, and new structures like NAV loans are becoming increasingly important as private assets stay locked up longer.

Key takeaways

  • Samir Kaji says private markets in wealth management should be curated, because access without manager selection is not enough.
  • He believes the wealth channel could represent $4 trillion to $5 trillion of the next $15 trillion in private markets growth by 2030.
  • Kaji warns that a strong headline track record can be misleading if the team, fund size, or strategy has changed.
  • Allocate underwrites managers by focusing on sourcing edge, ability to win deals, and judgment, not just past numbers.
  • He says fund of funds can still make sense when they save time and provide access to top managers in high-dispersion asset classes.
  • Kaji expects liquidity tools like secondaries and NAV loans to become more important as private investments stay illiquid longer.

Notable quotes

“the dispersion can be 2,000 basis points”

— Samir Kaji at 14:06

“Track records are important to actually understand”

— Samir Kaji at 25:44

“you cannot reduce a fee low enough to make a bad manager good”

— Samir Kaji at 42:57

How the episode opens

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Our guest today is Samir Kaji. Samir is the co-founder and chief executive officer of Allocate. Allocate is a private markets operating system for wealth advisory firms and fund managers.

A technology platform that lets advisers and general partners source, build, and manage private markets portfolios at scale.

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Topics

  • private markets in wealth management
  • manager selection
  • fund of funds fees
  • emerging managers vs established firms
  • private market liquidity and secondaries

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • Allocate
  • Silicon Valley Bank
  • First Republic Bank

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