Episode summary
Prediction Market ETFs and the Future of Sports Investing
ETF Prime
· · 49 min · Hosts: Nate Geraci, Simeon Hyman · Guests: Kirsten Chang, Chris Marangi
Summary
The episode centered on two attempts to package unconventional exposure into ETFs: prediction market contracts and live sports/entertainment assets. Kirsten Chang said prediction markets have grown quickly, with global trading volume around $40 billion, but she warned that the proposed ETFs raise plumbing, liquidity, surveillance, and legal questions because event contracts are binary bets that can be regulated either by the CFTC or state gambling laws. She argued that the wrapper mainly makes speculation easier, not necessarily better, and that approval odds for the filings are low, though not zero.
The second half focused on the Gabelli Opportunities in Live and Sports ETF, which seeks to own public companies tied to live entertainment and sports, including the Atlanta Braves, Madison Square Garden Sports, Rogers Communications, and Manchester United. The guest argued that live sports, concerts, and venues benefit from durable consumer demand, scarce supply, and media-rights tailwinds. He also said the strategy is grounded in private-market value, with examples suggesting public prices can lag transaction values. Both guests kept returning to the same tension: the ETF structure expands access, but it also makes the line between investing and gambling easier to blur.
Key takeaways
- Kirsten Chang said prediction markets have exploded to about $40 billion in trading volume, up from less than $10 billion two years ago.
- Chang said the proposed prediction market ETFs face liquidity, timing, insider-trading, and surveillance risks because event contracts are often thinly traded and binary.
- Chang said SEC approval looks “very low, but not zero,” because regulators remain cautious about anything resembling gambling.
- Chris Morangi said the Gabelli Goals ETF is built to own public sports and live-entertainment assets like the Braves, MSG Sports, Rogers Communications, and Manchester United.
- Morangi argued live sports and concerts have durable demand and scarce supply, making the space more like a long-duration store of value than a typical cyclical industry.
Notable quotes
“These are legitimate, wellrespected ETF issuers. You know, Granite Shares, Bitwise, Roundhill with smart people behind them”
“like anything else that's been ETFified, you know, it's all about democratizing access to a space that's harder to reach typically”
“I think the market itself will always give you better hedges and uh I don't see the demand there quite yet”
“we think over time there'll be more uh sports assets that become public”
How the episode opens
Like anything else that's been ETFified, you know, it's all about democratizing access to a space that's harder to reach typically. So, you know, there's a lot of friction involved with placing bets traditionally. All right, joining me will be Chris Moreni, co-chief investment officer of value at Gabelli Funds, who back in January, they launched the Gabelli Opportunities and Live and Sports ETF.
The ticker symbol is goals, GLS, which this pretty much holds exactly what you think it does. This invests in companies involved in live media and entertainment and sports. So, for example, it owns the Atlanta Braves holding company.
Uh, Madison Square Garden Sports is in there. Rogers Communications is a holding, which they own the Toronto Blue Jays and Raptors and Maple Leafs. Uh, Manchester United is another holding.
You get the idea. This ETF is seeking to offer exposure to actually many of the things that I enjoy in sports and concerts and live experiences. So, I'm really looking forward to this conversation because we'll obviously spotlight that ETF, but we are going to dive much deeper into the world of sports and live entertainment and the actual investment case here, which I would say there's clearly demand for sports and live entertainment, but that doesn't necessarily mean these are great investments.
And so, I'll have Chris lay out the uh overall opportunity here. So, he'll join me a bit later to start this week. I'll be joined by Kirsten Chang, senior industry analyst at Vetify, and we are going to discuss something that I have been chomping at the bit to get into, which are these recent filings for prediction market ETFs.
So, we saw a slew of these filings a couple of weeks ago from uh Roundhill, Bitwise, and Granite Shares. And no surprise, these have generated a lot of debate both inside and outside the industry.
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Topics
- prediction market etfs
- sports investing
- gambling vs investing
- live sports media
- etf regulatory filings
Companies and tickers mentioned
- VettaFi
- Gabelli Funds
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