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Stocks Are Falling. Put Buying Hit a Record. So Why Does an Options Trader See a Thanksgiving Rally?

Excess Returns · · Hosts: Jack Forehand · Guests: Brent Kochuba

Stocks Are Falling. Put Buying Hit a Record. So Why Does an Options Trader See a Thanksgiving Rally? – Excess Returns

Summary

Brent Kochuba argues that the current selloff is being driven as much by options hedging and dealer positioning as by headlines, with record put demand, negative gamma, and a flattening VIX term structure amplifying daily swings. He says the market has been unstable since the October options expiration, and that the heavy put position into November expiration can still pressure stocks even though this is not a large monthly expiration.

He ties the weakness in AI and semis to a mix of falling call demand, rising correlation, and higher bond yields that have disrupted the rotation trade out of tech and into other sectors. Brent says the rally/bounce case depends on the market getting through a cluster of events next week, including Nvidia earnings, the Anthropic IPO, VIX expiration, and November OPEX.

His base case is near-term downside risk, but he also sees the setup for a Thanksgiving rally once those risks begin to clear. Brent wants to see the weakest AI infrastructure names stabilize before trusting a durable recovery, and he stresses that options prices are already elevated, so traders are paying up for protection while the market remains in a choppy, two-way regime.

Key takeaways

  • Brent Kochuba says November put positioning is unusually heavy, with only 35% of S&P 500 expiring delta in calls, which leaves the market vulnerable into expiration.
  • He says record put volume and negative gamma can force dealers to sell more stock as prices fall, intensifying intraday swings.
  • Brent argues that higher bond yields have undermined the rotation out of tech and into rate-sensitive sectors, removing a key support for the broad market.
  • He expects the market to remain unstable until next week’s Nvidia earnings, Anthropic IPO, VIX expiration, and November OPEX pass.
  • Brent thinks a Thanksgiving rally is possible after expiration because the hedging pressure should unwind and volatility should contract.

Notable quotes

“most S&P put contracts ever, 4 and a.5 million contracts in a single day”

— Brent Kochuba

“we are in a very kind of unstable negative gamma regime right now and we are seeing a lot of big swings in the market”

— Brent Kochuba at 8:06

“We're going to lose a lot of put positioning next next Friday right at options expiration and that should relieve some of this downside pressure”

— Brent Kochuba at 18:01

Topics

  • options dealer hedging
  • opec effect
  • vix futures curve
  • bond yields and sector rotation
  • ai stock volatility

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • NVDA
  • SpotGamma
  • Nvidia
  • CoreWeave

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