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Verging on Another Escalation in the Middle East | Ali Vaez

Hidden Forces · · 46 min · Hosts: Demetri Kofinas · Guests: Ali Vaez

Verging on Another Escalation in the Middle East | Ali Vaez – Hidden Forces

Summary

Eight months into Operation Epic Fury, Ali Vaez describes the war as a stalemate at the center and a metastasizing conflict on the periphery. He says the Yemen front has taken on a life of its own, while the Iran-US channel remains stuck despite Qatari mediation and new Iranian proposals to reopen the Strait of Hormuz on a compressed timeline.

Vaez argues that Iran has turned geography into leverage by using the Strait of Hormuz to pressure the global economy, not by fully sealing it, but by selectively disrupting traffic, raising insurance costs, and keeping oil markets on edge. He says this has forced Washington into costly military commitments while also degrading US missile-defense inventories and pushing American forces out of several regional bases.

Inside Iran, he says the war has hardened the regime’s core base even as it deepens economic pain. Inflation, unemployment, and currency weakness have worsened sharply, but the conflict has also shifted popular anger toward both the regime and its foreign enemies, undercutting hopes for external regime change. Vaez also says coordination between Washington and Tel Aviv has frayed, with Israel sidelined after overpromising what the campaign could achieve.

Key takeaways

  • Ali Vaez says the conflict is stalled at the Iran-US level even as the Yemen theater has become partly independent of it.
  • Vaez says Iran is using the Strait of Hormuz as a pressure tool by selectively disrupting shipping and raising global energy costs.
  • Vaez estimates US stocks have been heavily drawn down, including about 70% of THAAD interceptors and about 50% of Patriot missiles.
  • Vaez says the war has worsened Iran’s economy sharply, with inflation above 100% and the currency down 50% since the fighting began.
  • Vaez says Washington and Tel Aviv are less coordinated than at the start, and Israel has been sidelined after overpromising on regime collapse.

Notable quotes

“it is a metastasizing conflict on the one side and it's a stalemate on the other”

— Ali Vaez at 8:18

“we are in an absolute state of stalemate”

— Ali Vaez at 8:18

“This is the first time that a country that is subject to economic coercion by great powers is able to squeeze the global economy in response”

— Ali Vaez at 28:59

“Inflation is above 100%. Unemployment, which was a chronic problem, is now even worse”

— Ali Vaez at 25:20

How the episode opens

What's up, everybody? My name is Dimitri Kofinas, and you're listening to Hidden Forces, a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world. My guest in this episode of Hidden Forces is Ali Vaez, deputy program director for the Middle East and North Africa at the Crisis Group, and one of the most closely watched analysts of Iran's foreign and nuclear policy.

Ali played a direct role in the negotiations that produced the 2015 nuclear deal that the Trump administration withdrew from in 2018. By the end of today's conversation, you will have a clearer understanding of where the war between Iran and the United States actually stands 8 months following the commencement of Operation Epic Fury, how Iran has turned its control of the Strait of Hormuz into a tool for pressuring the global economy, what this conflict has caused Washington, Tehran, and their respective allies, and why the window for a durable diplomatic solution may be closing, and what an escalation of hostilities would look like for the region, its geopolitics, and the global economy. Ali and I spend the first hour of our conversation establishing the state of play 8 months into Operation Epic Fury, how the war has metastasized into a wider regional confrontation involving the Houthis in Yemen and attacks on Saudi Arabia, and what the fighting has cost the United States military, including a significant depletion of its missile interceptor stockpiles and the loss of several regional bases.

We also discuss how the war has reshaped Iran's internal politics, economy, and society, and why coordination between Washington and Tel Aviv appears to be breaking down. The second hour is devoted to a conversation about how the United States and its Gulf allies have kept oil flowing through the Strait of Hormuz despite Iran's blockade, and why that workaround is not sustainable.

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Topics

  • iran us war
  • strait of hormuz disruptions
  • houthi attacks yemen
  • us military losses
  • diplomatic resolution window

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