Episode summary
Sampension CIO bets on RA, VC to hedge inflation era
Summary
Henrik Olejasz Larsen says Sampension is rebuilding its portfolio for a world where falling rates are no longer the default. Rather than relying on tactical trading, he says the fund manages risk mainly through strategic asset allocation, using a lifecycle product that shifts younger savers toward more equity risk and older savers toward a bigger allocation to real assets such as real estate, infrastructure, forestry and commodities.
He says private credit is useful, but Sampension does not treat it as a primary inflation hedge. Instead, the fund separates credit risk from interest-rate risk, prefers low leverage in real assets, and wants inflation protection to come from the asset side of the portfolio, especially infrastructure and energy-linked exposures. He argues that Europe’s tighter banking system and the post-GFC reduction in traditional lending support private credit structurally, but sees it as one risk bucket among many rather than a special case.
On real estate, Larsen says Sampension reduced leveraged office exposure after 2022 and shifted more capital toward Denmark and Europe. He says development projects are attractive because Sampension can hold multi-year negative cash flows without leverage. He is also bullish on venture capital, where regulation limits direct participation, but expects themes like AI, material science and quantum technologies to create attractive dispersion even if many bets fail.
Takeaways: Larsen says Sampension’s inflation defense is built into strategic allocation, not tactical tilts.
Larsen says the fund prefers low leverage in infrastructure and real estate so inflation protection comes from asset cash flows, not debt structure.
Larsen says Sampension reduced leveraged office exposure after 2022 and sees European and Danish real estate as better aligned with its goals.
Larsen says venture capital is underweight relative to peers because regulation makes direct investing cumbersome, even though the fund likes the opportunity set.
Larsen says commodity and energy exposures would likely underperform if oil fell to $50 a barrel and metals weakened.
Key takeaways
- Larsen says Sampension’s inflation defense is built into strategic allocation, not tactical tilts.
- Larsen says the fund prefers low leverage in infrastructure and real estate so inflation protection comes from asset cash flows, not debt structure.
- Larsen says Sampension reduced leveraged office exposure after 2022 and sees European and Danish real estate as better aligned with its goals.
- Larsen says venture capital is underweight relative to peers because regulation makes direct investing cumbersome, even though the fund likes the opportunity set.
- Larsen says commodity and energy exposures would likely underperform if oil fell to $50 a barrel and metals weakened.
Notable quotes
“the way that we manage our risk is predominantly through changes in the strategic asset allocation”
“we have actually made our product a little bit differently in that uh we have three different investment buckets”
“we have typically opted for low leverage and not put leverage in those instruments”
“we are actually structurally long in energy and that comes from an ambition to hedge the inflation exposure”
How the episode opens
Henrik Larson has spent decades managing money for some of the Denmark's largest pension savers. As CIO Sam Pension, he oversees a portfolio built for long term. But right now, the long term looks nothing like it did.
Inflation is back. Oil markets are volatile and the era of falling rates that define institutional investing 40 years may be over. Today, Henrik tells us how he's repositioning where he sees real risks and how is he navigating the current market landscape.
Welcome to the allocators playbook. Henrik,
Thank you.
So, diving straight into it, which sectors are you actually overweight in right now? not in principle but in terms of actual life capital allocation and where did the board take a little bit of convincing. So the way that we manage our risk is predominantly through changes in the strategic asset allocation.
Whereas in our implementation, the more tactical deviations from the allocations is actually fairly small. But I think that comes back to your introduction about inflation. That is typically something that you want to predominantly approach through your strategic asset allocation.
So this is something that we have been thinking about for a long time through our product definition. So that's of course something that the board has been involved in over a multi-year product process because that's embedded directly into the product definition. But if you allow me, I would like to tell you a little bit more about the different aspects of that because it has certainly changed over the course of the years.
We have different investment products according to the different types of liabilities we have. But the main investment product that we have for the bulk of our savers is a uncared so-called market rate life cycle investment product reflecting as a life cycle name indicates that you have more risk capacity when you're young and less when you're old.
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Topics
- inflation hedging
- strategic asset allocation
- risk management
- real estate
- venture capital
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Sampension
- RA
- VC
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