Episode summary
York University Treasurer Arijit Banik Spoke to Courtney McQuade
Summary
Arijit Banik says York University approaches sustainable investing as part of the whole investment process, not a separate overlay, and that smaller allocators have to be pragmatic about how they implement it. He expects the forum discussion to be shaped by experienced panelists, but his own contribution will be the perspective of a smaller allocator focused on what actually works in portfolios.
Banik argues that the policy debate has shifted: energy security now has to sit alongside net zero, especially given geopolitical turmoil and leadership changes in the U.S. and Canada. He says Canada has the resources needed for energy security, but policy has not kept pace, so allocators should think in terms of both energy security and sustainable investing rather than treating them as mutually exclusive.
On reshoring, he is skeptical that manufacturing will meaningfully return at scale. Banik says China spent decades moving up the value chain, and any reshoring that does happen will likely be highly capital-intensive, driven by robotics and advanced manufacturing rather than labor-heavy factories. He also flags private equity lock-up risk, private credit stress, and geopolitical analysis as timely topics institutional investors should watch closely.
Key takeaways
- Banik says York University treats sustainable investing as integrated into manager selection and the broader investment process, not as a standalone mandate.
- He argues energy security must now be prioritized alongside net zero because of global turmoil and shifting U.S. and Canadian leadership.
- He is skeptical of broad reshoring, saying any return of manufacturing will likely be robotics-heavy and capital intensive rather than labor intensive.
- Banik warns institutions to be cautious on private equity because capital can be locked up for a decade and exits remain difficult.
- He says private credit and asset-based lending deserve attention because there have already been issues in those markets.
Notable quotes
“we feel that sustainable investing is just one of those things that has to be ingrained into the whole investing process”
“energy security has to be top of mind”
“It's not going to be either or. We have to think of it in terms of let's have both in place and allocate accordingly”
“I foresee reshoring as really advanced manufacturing if it's going to happen”
“Allocators like myself have to be cognizant that they're going to lock up their capital for a decade when they put it into private equity”
How the episode opens
Rajie, you're joining us in Toronto for the Canada East Institutional Forum for a panel on the future of sustainable investing. As treasurer of York University, can you give us a sneak peek into what you're planning to bring to that conversation?
Sure, Courtney, and thanks for having me. I'm really looking forward to the panel. I think that it's just not what I'm bringing to the panel.
The panel in itself and my co-panelists are actually terrific. Michael McGawan is part of it. He's the general manager for infrastructure at Canada Post.
He has incredibly deep knowledge of that asset class and that space. So, he's going to be bringing a lot to that. in terms of sustainable investing specialists from Mercer Jean Fangu who is a really practically oriented sustainable investing professional had I've had the good fortune of having one-on-one conversations with her and I've always been impressed by how practical and how thoughtful she is in in her approach while I don't know Sarah Hughes of American Century personally I have had the privilege of listening to her at previous forums for example the Canada test forum that Marcus Group ran and she's also very thoughtful in her approach to sustainable investing.
So what do I bring? Well, I'm I'm going to be the voice of the alligator of a smaller allocator on there. But from the York University perspective, we feel that sustainable investing is just one of those things that has to be ingrained into the whole investing process.
And we take it seriously when we pick our investment managers. And it would be remiss for me to say that um the panel is also going to be expertly moderated by Daniel Amil and had the chance to briefly chat with her and I think that the audience is in for a treat.
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Topics
- reshoring skepticism
- energy security vs net zero
- private equity lock-up problem
- private credit stress
- geopolitical investment analysis
Companies and tickers mentioned
- York University
- Investment Management Corporation of Ontario (IMCO)
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