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Is Wall Street Wrong About AI? | Prof G Markets
Summary
Boring stocks are winning in 2026 because investors have rotated away from the AI-heavy MAG 7 and into consumer staples, energy, materials, and other defensive names. The host argues the market is not necessarily fleeing equities, but instead shifting into cheaper, lower-growth businesses that look safer after tech’s huge run-up. The guest agrees the move reflects a real change in sentiment, but says the so-called safe stocks now look expensive too, with consumer staples, utilities, and energy trading at historically high multiples.
Both hosts argue that the market has flipped its narrative in a matter of weeks. They also push back on the idea that AI will destroy enterprise software, noting that switching costs are high and that Microsoft and Amazon are not cleanly on the losing side because they own major stakes in OpenAI and Anthropic. The guest says software may actually be more recession-resistant than consumer staples because companies cannot easily rip out core systems like Salesforce or ServiceNow.
The wealth tax debate centers on fairness versus feasibility. The guest says the ultra-wealthy are under-taxed, but argues a wealth tax would be administratively messy, easy to evade, and likely ineffective. A better approach, in the guest’s view, would be taxing borrowing against assets, eliminating carried-interest treatment, and changing capital-gains rules. On AI, both hosts say the political backlash is growing fast as higher electricity bills, data-center opposition, and distrust of billionaires turn AI into a mainstream political issue.
Key takeaways
- The host says investors have rotated out of the MAG 7 and into consumer staples, energy, and materials, while the guest says those defensive names now look stretched.
- The guest argues software may be more recession-resistant than consumer staples because enterprise systems are hard to rip out and switching costs are high.
- The guest says Microsoft and Amazon are not straightforward AI losers because they own major stakes in OpenAI and Anthropic.
- The host says a wealth tax is popular but proposes more enforceable alternatives, including taxing borrowing against assets and closing carried-interest and capital-gains loopholes.
- The hosts say AI is becoming a political liability as households blame it for higher power bills and data-center strain, which could eventually hit future cash flows.
Notable quotes
“the market is paying a 50% plus premium multiple for low growth low margin commoditized physical goods over high growth high margin sticky digital products”
“I find that conventional wisdom or when wisdom becomes conventional, it's no longer wise”
“We need to start taxing the [ __ ] out of data centers”
“less than half of Americans say they like AI, that they have a favorable view of AI”
How the episode opens
Today's number, $2,26. That's the average amount American pet owner spent on their pets in a year. True story. My uh pet parrot died. Last thing he said, I think my parrot's about to die. You have to think about it. That's what I like about that joke. No,
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I did see that. I thought it was pretty ridiculous, but I love Scaramucci. Um, so you know, I I held my tongue on that one, but I'm not sure that was the best use of funds. — I immediately texted him because we're friends and I said, "Can you adopt me?"
Where does his son get 17 million bucks? — It's a great question. I mean, I knew Anthony was doing well. I didn't know he was doing that well. Unless maybe his son is doing really well. What? How did Anthony respond to that?
I haven't heard back from him. My guess is he's gotten a lot of texts about that Pokemon card thing. — Didn't appreciate the comment. — What's going on, Ed? — I'm doing very well. I'm doing very well. — I heard you headed to London. Is that right?
I am headed to London on a secret mission with an advertiser. Uh I'm not sure I'm supposed to be talking about it, but I am heading to London.
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Topics
- boring stocks
- recession proofing
- wealth taxes
- ai as political issue
- inequality
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