Episode summary
Something Has Broken In The U.S. | Prof G Markets
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· · Hosts: Ed Elson, Scott Galloway · Guests: Katie Martin
Summary
Katie Martin argued that the latest Trump “TACO” episode was smaller than previous market scares, but that the more important signal is the erosion of trust in U.S. policy and assets. She said investors outside the U.S. increasingly see the dollar, the White House, and even Treasury safety as risk factors that now require a higher premium, which helps explain why global markets outperformed the U.S. in 2025 and why the rotation away from America may keep going in 2026.
She also walked through why the Japanese bond market matters again after years of being “aggressively boring.” Rising inflation, a slower central bank response, and the risk of sharply higher yields could reshape global capital flows if Japanese investors find enough return at home. That would matter for U.S. Treasuries and other developed markets that have benefited from Japanese money seeking yield abroad.
On AI, Martin said the bubble debate is real but incomplete: markets are pricing in both huge productivity gains and the possibility of mass labor displacement. She pointed to survey data showing a wide gap between executives who think AI is saving hours each week and workers who say it saves them nothing, and she argued that investors are becoming more demanding about proof, revenue, and real operating results.
Key takeaways
- Katie Martin said foreign investors increasingly view U.S. assets through a trust-and-hedge lens, not just a growth lens.
- Martin said the latest Trump market scare was smaller than prior ones, but still reinforced the idea that markets can no longer fully discipline policy.
- Martin argued the Japanese bond market is no longer a backwater because higher inflation could push yields up and alter global carry flows.
- Martin said the AI debate now hinges on whether companies can prove monetization and productivity gains, not just narrate an AGI story.
- Martin expects the rotation out of U.S. assets to continue in 2026, especially if Europe keeps benefiting from fiscal spending and better relative valuations.
Notable quotes
“something here has broken. The first of all, the dollar has broken. the dollar is a lot weaker”
“we have to accept that we live in a world that where a president who is willing to demolish the east wing of the White House”
“The Japanese bond market has, as I'm sure you know, for the longest time, been aggressively boring”
“What strikes me is that, you know, I think it was the chair at OpenAI in Davos saying, "No, no, sure. There's definitely a bubble going on here”
How the episode opens
Today's number, $33,000. That's how much the average wedding cost in 2025. Ed, true story, on wedding night, my wife said to me, um, my ex-wife I should add, said, "I've got very good and very bad news. It's going to make you very happy and very angry." And I said, "Let it on me." And she said, "Oh my god, your dick is so much bigger than your brothers."
What happened to the PG jokes when all guests are on? — I could keep going. How are you, Ed? — I'm doing very well. It's freezing here in New York. It is unbelievable. — Yeah. Do you miss me? You haven't seen a lot of me in the last month.
I do miss you. Where are you? — That was very sincere. I'm in Jackson Hall. I've been in LA, New York, Davos, and now Jackson Hall, which by the way, those routes aren't easy. That's not like there's no airline that has direct routes to all those places.
There's surely some private air flights. That's kind of the those are all the hot spots now. — Yes. And don't call me Shirley. — What are you doing in Jackson Hall? — I'm speaking. Am I allowed to say this? I'm at the annual meeting of
You're not allowed to say it. Sorry. — He's at an Illuminati meeting is what he means to say. — I'm the keynote speaker at a And notice how I said keynote, not just I'm a speaker. Desperate for everyone's affirmation. I'm a speaker at a conference of an investment bank that is here in Jackson. All that's all I'm allowed to say.
Not do not doing a good job defending against the Illuminati rumors. What's going to happen?
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Topics
- trump policies
- taco market recap
- japanese bond market turbulence
- ai bubble
- big tech valuation outlook
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Financial Times
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