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The Jobs Report Is Worse Than It Looks | Prof G Markets
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· · Hosts: Ed Elson, Scott Galloway · Guests: Kathryn Anne Edwards, Alex Heath
Summary
The host argues that the January jobs report looked healthier than the underlying labor market really is. The economy added 130,000 jobs and unemployment slipped to 4.3%, but nearly all of the gains came from healthcare and social assistance. He and a labor economist say that makes the labor market look more stable than it is, because those sectors reflect demographic need and not broad business expansion. The economist also points to major revisions showing only 181,000 jobs were added in 2025, making it the weakest nonrecession hiring year since 2003.
They also stress that the revisions do not erase the direction of the data: hiring has been weak for months, and recession timing is often recognized only with a long lag. The economist says the labor market is especially punishing for young workers, who are more exposed to slow hiring and less able to find a foothold. Even with a small drop in the 16-to-24 unemployment rate to 9%, she argues the broader story is still labor-market purgatory.
In the second half, the host and a guest examine new AI releases from OpenAI and Anthropic and the market selloff they helped trigger. The guest says the models are improving, especially for coding and tool use, but that much of the reaction is driven by hype and fear. The host then argues that AI is already taking jobs and that the bigger problem is policy failure: the U.S. is choosing inaction just as disruption accelerates.
Key takeaways
- The host says January’s 130,000-job gain was masked by heavy concentration in healthcare and social assistance.
- A labor economist says 2025 was the worst nonrecession hiring year since 2003 after revisions cut annual job growth to 181,000.
- The labor economist argues young workers remain the most exposed to a low-hiring labor market, even with unemployment for ages 16 to 24 down to 9%.
- A guest says the latest OpenAI and Anthropic models are improving steadily, especially for coding, but the market reaction is being amplified by hype.
- The host argues AI is already taking jobs and says the bigger risk is that the U.S. is choosing “no policy” in response.
Notable quotes
“The January jobs report came in stronger than expected. The economy added 130,000 jobs and the unemployment rate edged lower to 4.3%”
“That makes 2025 the worst nonrecession year for hiring since 2003”
“the majority of job growth come came from health care, education and social assistance”
“This labor market in particular, this lowhiring almost frozen labor market that we see is particularly damaging to young people”
“The experience that tech workers have had over the past year of watching AI go from helpful tool to does my job better than I do”
How the episode opens
Today's number eight. That is the percentage of Americans who say their favorite winter Olympic sport is curling. That is also roughly the percentage of Americans who have a serious mental illness.
Must be a coincidence. Welcome to Profy Markets. I'm Edson.
It is February 12th. Let's check in on yesterday's market vitals. The major indices ticked down after employment data was released.
More on that in a minute. Meanwhile, Treasury yields spiked as the jobs report increased the likelihood that the Fed will hold rates at the next meeting. And finally, Bitcoin sank below $67,000.
Okay, what else is happening? The January jobs report came in stronger than expected. The economy added 130,000 jobs and the unemployment rate edged lower to 4.3%.
But the headline growth masks a lopsided picture of the job market. Nearly all of the gains came from just two sectors, healthcare and social assistance. Meanwhile, new annual revisions show that the economy added just 181,000 jobs in 2025, which is down from the initial 584,000 that was reported.
That makes 2025 the worst nonrecession year for hiring since 2003. Here to help us break down this jobs report, we're speaking with Katherine Anne Edwards, labor economist, economic policy consultant, and host of the Optimist economy podcast. Katherine, thank you for joining us again on Profy Markets.
Thank you again for having me. — So, let's get into this jobs report. Uh, we added 130,000 jobs. Unemployment rate came down. That's kind of the good stuff. There is some bad stuff as well. Let's just start with your initial reactions. What did you make of the report?
I thought it was a report that reminds us that good and good and bad news is relative. 2 years ago, we would have been alarmed at a jobs number this low.
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Topics
- jobs report
- hiring slowdown
- ai models
- ai policy
- labor economics
Companies and tickers mentioned
- OpenAI
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