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Wall Street Sinks on Greenland Risk | Prof G Markets
Prof G Markets
· · 32 min · Hosts: Ed Elson, Scott Galloway · Guests: Justin Wolfers, Rohan Goswami
Summary
Markets sold off sharply after President Trump escalated his push on Greenland, with the S&P 500 down 2%, the VIX at its highest since November, bitcoin below $90,000, and gold at a record high. The host framed the move as a real test of whether Trump’s tariff and territorial threats are more than rhetorical noise, while Justin Wolfers argued markets are pricing only a small chance of a huge geopolitical shock, not a high chance of a modest one.
Wolfers said the bigger issue is the possible follow-through: a trade war with the European Union, a breakdown in NATO, and a world where tariff uncertainty becomes the norm for years. He suggested the market move implies investors assign roughly a 1 in 10 chance that Trump is serious, and he argued the economic consequences would be catastrophic if he were. He also broadened the point into a warning about political institutions needing to be “lunatic proof.”
Rohan Goswami then explained why Netflix fell even after beating on revenue and earnings: investors are worried about execution risk as the company pivots from builder to acquirer in its $83 billion all-cash bid for Warner Bros. Discovery. The host closed by arguing Trump’s affordability agenda is unserious, because the real inflationary policy already in place is the tariff regime.
Key takeaways
- Justin Wolfers said markets are reacting to a small probability of a very bad outcome, not a likely moderate one, after Trump’s Greenland threats.
- Wolfers argued a serious follow-through could mean a trade war with the EU and possibly the end of NATO as we know it.
- Rohan Goswami said Netflix investors are uneasy because the company is a proven builder but an unproven buyer in the Warner Bros. Discovery deal.
- Goswami said Warner Bros. Discovery’s history of bad M&A makes the asset look "cursed" to investors.
- The host argued Trump’s affordability proposals are not credible while tariffs are still in place and passing costs to American consumers.
Notable quotes
“It's not about the probability he follows through, it's about the consequences if he follows through, which is they're screaming, "This is terrible”
“if he follows through with a trade war, there's actually a chance he follows through with a war war”
“We think the plan is intended to demonstrate that the White House is doing something about affordability”
How the episode opens
Today's number 25. That's how many years old Wikipedia turned last week. Sadly, that also means it can no longer date Leo DiCaprio.
Welcome to Profy Markets. I'm Edson. It is January 21st.
Let's check in on yesterday's market vitals. The major indices sold off in their worst session since October. Bitcoin dropped below $90,000.
The dollar weakened and the yield on 10-year treasuries jumped to its highest level since August. Okay, what's happening? The S&P plunged 2% yesterday, erasing its gains for the year as Wall Street reckoned with President Trump's escalating threats to acquire Greenland.
Volatility spiked with the VIX, the market so-called fear gauge, hitting its highest level since November. And you guessed it, gold hit another record high as investors ran for cover. The drama is playing out in Daros right now as business and political leaders gather for the World Economic Forum.
President Trump arrived yesterday and he agreed to meet with officials to discuss Greenland, but he says, quote, "There can be no going back on his plan to seize the territory. Meanwhile, Greenland's prime minister is urging the island to prepare for an invasion, which is still unlikely, but no longer unthinkable.
How far are you willing to go to acquire Greenland? — You'll find out. — All right. Joining us now to tell us what's happening in the markets, how this all relates to Greenland. We're speaking with everyone's favorite, Justin Wolfers, professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan. Justin, thank you for joining us. Would you believe me if I told you I was coming to you live from Greenland?
I'm not sure I would. I'm not sure I would. — Looks the same. Looks like you're you're you are in Ann Arbor right now.
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Topics
- tariff threats
- greenland risk
- netflix earnings
- warner bros discovery bidding war
- trump affordability plans
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NFLX
- Netflix
- Warner Bros. Discovery
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