Episode summary
Ep 107 Henrik Reimavuo
Swimming With Allocators
· · 47 min · Hosts: Alexa Binns, Earnest Sweat · Guests: Henrik Reimavuo, Michael Podolny
Summary
The guest argues that venture in Europe is driven less by a shortage of capital than by a quality and allocation problem. He says the early stages are especially thin, with angel capital and pre-seed funding far below US levels, and that too much European money is steered by state-backed incentives toward policy goals, geography, or broad thematic consensus rather than performance. By contrast, he sees the most interesting managers as specialized, culturally rooted, and often built around authentic communities rather than traditional VC brands.
A major thread is how narratives shape capital flows. The guest says Slush taught him that investors cluster around hot themes like decarbonization, then later web3, and that the same pattern now favors European resilience, defense, and cybersecurity. He also explains why his firm, Firm, is built as a concentrated fund of funds focused on next-gen managers, especially those with a European link, while still remaining opportunistic in the US.
The conversation also covers the growing pull of direct investing by LPs, the role of Swiss wealth and corporate capital, and how AI is changing legal work without replacing judgment. The guest closes by arguing that LPs should be more direct, more transparent, and quicker to say no.
Key takeaways
- The guest says Europe’s venture gap is mainly a quality and misallocation problem, not just a capital shortage.
- He argues that angel and pre-seed capital in Europe are roughly 20x and 10-13x lower than in the US, respectively.
- Firm is designed as a concentrated, performance-driven fund of funds rather than a fee-feeder model.
- The guest says today’s European capital is flowing toward resilience, defense, and cybersecurity after the Ukraine war and Trump’s return to office.
- He thinks the best managers build authentic communities first and invest second, because that creates trust and differentiated deal flow.
Notable quotes
“Europe has so many different markets and so many talent clusters which are completely invisible for outside sort of multiplatforms”
“AI can never beat IRL. Postcoid people want to meet people want to go to run clubs”
“we are firm in our underwriting. we're firm in how we operate and we want to invest in firms”
“just answer your mails. That's one thing. Uh and and be, you know, honest with what works for you, what doesn't”
How the episode opens
Welcome to Swimming with Alligators, — The VC podcast from the LP perspective — With your hosts, Alexa Bins — And Ernest Scott. You ready? Let's dive in. — Thank you for having me. It's a It's an honor and a pleasure. — Awesome. Um, you sort of entered this industry as a very eager teen volunteering at Slush, which I believe is one of the largest uh startup conferences to date.
Yep. — Um, what was it sort of that originally made you think this is where I belong, like this is what I want to spend some time doing?
Yeah, for sure. Uh, it's a great question and I would say that I was always a plans guy and my plan was to do something completely different and it's always the case with people on your podcast as well who talk about their entrance into the world of of venture is that it's always serendipity. So my plan was to do something completely different and then I had had a guy who just brought me into the team at slush.
Um, so I joined in 2015 as said as a volunteer in the investor investor group. Um, I was heading heading the the meeting area. So I got to meet many of the people who ended up actually uh you know working together with me at at some investments and so forth in in later stage.
But honestly it took me at least four years to really understand that this is what I want to do and that was after stinted in investment banking which I always thought that was going to be my thing and I was pulled back on onto the team then to head the investor operations of the of the um the conference in 2019.
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Topics
- european venture gap
- vc incentives and misallocation
- fund of funds and emerging managers
- government and corporate capital
- defense and cybersecurity
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NOK
- Slush
- Firm
- Nokia
- Sidley Austin LLP
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