Episode summary
Power Laws, Secondaries, and Staying Consistent: StepStone’s VC Framework
Swimming With Allocators
· · Hosts: Alexa Binns, Earnest Sweat · Guests: Anthony Giambrone, Rebecca Stuart
Summary
Anthony Giambrone traces StepStone’s venture framework to a career built from humble beginnings, including work as a gas station manager, nightclub employee, and investment banking receptionist before moving into venture and growth investing. He argues that those experiences reinforced humility, empathy, and the importance of relationships in a relationship-driven asset class where EQ matters as much as technical skill.
The core investment message is that venture cannot be timed cleanly. StepStone’s view is that early-stage exposure should be maintained consistently across vintages, because returns are driven by innovation cycles and a small number of extreme winners. Anthony cites power-law dynamics, saying a handful of vintages account for most outperformance and that a relatively small number of companies drive much of exit value. He also says the firm is constructive on both pre-seed/Series A and secondaries, where liquidity shortages and unrealized NAV create opportunity.
For managers and LPs, he emphasizes edge over label. Emerging managers need a real reason to win the best founders, whether through network, ecosystem access, or research, while secondaries should focus on asset quality rather than discount alone. Looking ahead, he expects AI to intensify competition for identifying companies but make human trust even more important, while liquidity pressure and longer private-market hold times will make distribution solutions central to venture investing.
Key takeaways
- Anthony says venture is too tied to innovation cycles to time well, so early-stage exposure should be maintained consistently across vintages.
- StepStone believes a small number of vintages and companies create most venture outperformance, reinforcing a power-law approach to underwriting.
- He says emerging managers need a genuine edge to win elite founders, not just a new fund and a compelling story.
- In secondaries, StepStone prioritizes underlying asset quality and concentrated NAV over chasing the biggest discount.
- Anthony expects AI to automate company identification but make relationship quality and trust even more important in venture.
Notable quotes
“you really need to have a strategy if you're allocating to early stage VC where you're doing that incredibly consistently”
“we've looked at analysis that has told us that over the past 20 years, it's probably been five to seven vintages that created 80% of the outperformance”
“the discount matters a lot less than the underlying asset quality”
“relationship piece starts to matter even more”
How the episode opens
Welcome to Swimming with Alligators, — The VC podcast from the LP perspective — With your hosts Alexa Bins — And Ernest. You ready? Let's dive in.
On today's episode, uh, we have Anthony Jambron. Uh, he's a partner at Stepstone Group. Um and he's formerly he was with Greenspring Associates where he helped scale the platform from five to 85 plus investment professionals.
Uh prior experience includes growth equity uh and investment banking. Uh today we'll be talking about uh lessons from scaling a lead venture allocation platform. Uh also why relationships and uh and long-term thinking matter more than ever in VC.
uh and how emerging managers can stand out uh in such a crowded market. Uh so with that we welcome Anthony.
Thanks Ernest. Really happy to be here. — Uh glad to have you. I know what you know looking at your your bio uh from the website. Definitely impressive. But what really stuck out to me when we originally spoke on a prep call was uh you had the standard background of starting as a gas station uh manager. So I would love to just kind of hear how you got from there to all the other points that I mentioned in the in the bio.
Yeah, I come from a pretty pretty modest upbringing. Uh might be the most unpedigored guest that you've ever hosted. So, um, you know, I was born and raised in Morgantown, West Virginia, which is where West Virginia University is based.
Attended undergrad there, studied finance. Um, had the ultimate aspirations to be an investment banker, but was graduating in 2009, obviously at the trough of the GFC, and West Virginia's, you know, not necessarily a target school. So, I had to shelf that dream for a little bit.
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Topics
- venture power laws
- venture secondaries
- emerging managers spinouts
- ai hiring employment law
- liquidity pressures and dpi
Companies and tickers mentioned
- StepStone Group
- GreenSpring
- Sidley Austin LLP
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