Episode summary
Alphabet (GOOGL): The Megacap That Still Might Be Underrated
The Intrinsic Value Podcast
· · 1 hr 20 min · Hosts: Kyle Grieve, Shawn O’Malley
Summary
Alphabet has shifted from a cash-rich, buyback-heavy company to one making enormous commitments to AI infrastructure, with plans to spend around $200 billion on data centers in a single year and to fund that buildout with more than $100 billion in raised capital. The hosts argue that the business has not been broken by AI in the way the market once feared: search still looks durable, search revenue has kept growing, and Google appears to have adapted AI features into its existing monetization model rather than being displaced by chatbots.
A major part of the discussion is Alphabet’s capital allocation and how that changes the investment case. The hosts say margins have held up well overall, but free cash flow has been pressured by rising capex, and that the key question is whether the spending is defensive or a source of new long-term growth. They also cover legal and regulatory risk, concluding that the Chrome remedy loss was less damaging than feared and that Alphabet’s dominant relationships, especially with Apple, remain intact.
The episode also highlights faster-growing segments that may be underappreciated. Google Cloud is described as inflecting into profitability, YouTube remains a highly efficient platform business, and Waymo and other “other bets” have become more valuable than many investors expected. Even so, the hosts stress that Alphabet’s data-center economics, depreciation assumptions, and customer concentration in cloud remain unresolved questions that will determine whether today’s spending creates lasting value.
Key takeaways
- The hosts argue that the “AI kills search” thesis has not played out; Alphabet’s search business is still growing and AI features may strengthen, not weaken, usage.
- Alphabet’s spending has become far more aggressive, with roughly $200 billion planned for data centers this year, making free cash flow the main pressure point.
- Google Cloud is the clearest operating surprise: the hosts say it reached positive operating income and nearly 36% margins, much earlier than expected.
- Regulatory risk looks less severe than feared because the court rejected a Chrome breakup, while Alphabet’s Apple deal still appears to preserve its distribution advantage.
- Waymo and SpaceX are framed as valuable optionality inside “other bets,” but the hosts view Waymo as speculative compared with Uber despite its rising valuation.
Notable quotes
“the narrative I think fizzled out pretty quickly and now you've seen Open AI kind of scale back some of those ambitions”
“Alphabet has more than $500 billion of remaining performance obligations”
“the market was pricing Google as if search was the only business segment that mattered and search was in trouble because of the incoming threat of AI”
How the episode opens
About 18 months ago, Shawn pitched Alphabet as the cheapest of the Mag 7 back when the market was busy pricing in the death of search. But since that episode, the stock has roughly doubled and the death of search never actually showed up. What did show up as a company that now plans to spend around $200 billion in a single year on data centers, has stopped buying back its own stock entirely, and has raised over hundred billion in capital to fund this spending.
So, the business got better and the balance sheet got a lot stranger over time. Today, we want to discuss whether the alphabet we own is still the one that we bought last year. So, I'm really excited about this one as Alphabet is actually the second largest position inside of the intrinsic value portfolio with a waiting of around 14%.
Now, Alphabet has always been a business that interested me simply because I just use so many of its products daily. And as a user, I just don't really actually see much of a reason to switch to anything else. So, on a daily basis, you know, I'm using things like Gmail, I'm using their search engine, their browser, their web-based office applications, and even Google Home.
So, you know, I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm a pretty diehard user of Google products. And yet, I've never actually owned any Google shares. So, it's a bit of a strange conundrum.
But what really struck me when I was prepping for this episode is that the alphabet that you added to the portfolio 18 months ago is actually evolved pretty dramatically in that time frame. And I don't just mean the stock price. The business has made choices that I just didn't really expect, at least in terms of scale.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- alphabet valuation
- ai infrastructure spending
- google cloud margins
- waymo growth
- share buybacks and equity issuance
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GOOGL
- GOOG
- BRK-B
- BRK-A
- Alphabet
- Google Cloud
- Waymo
- Berkshire Hathaway
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