Episode summary
Netflix ($NTFLX): Did Netflix Finally Win The Streaming Wars?
The Intrinsic Value Podcast
· · Hosts: Shawn O'Malley, Daniel Mahncke
Summary
Netflix is presented as a business the market has underestimated since its 2022 subscriber scare, even after the stock fell about 30% in six months and then rebounded more than 400% from the lows. The host argues that Netflix has moved beyond being a pure subscriber-growth story: password crackdowns, ad-supported plans, international growth, and price hikes are now driving higher average revenue per user and earnings power.
A guest makes the case that Netflix has effectively won the streaming wars because it competes less with Disney+ or HBO Max than with all forms of leisure time, from linear TV to YouTube and video games. The discussion emphasizes Netflix’s advantages in product quality, recommendation algorithms, and a subscription that feels hard to cancel.
The episode also traces Netflix’s origin story from DVD mailings to global streaming dominance, highlighting early near-death moments, the Blockbuster rejection, and the decision to spend heavily on content before the competitive landscape fully formed. That cash burn is framed as the construction phase of a moat that now supports free cash flow and ongoing content investment. The guest further argues that Netflix’s culture, co-CEO structure, and willingness to combine technology with creative risk-taking are core to its durability.
Key takeaways
- The host thinks Netflix has shifted from subscriber growth to monetization, with pricing power, ads, and password enforcement now driving earnings.
- A guest says Netflix is winning by capturing leisure time, not just by beating other streamers like Disney+ or HBO Max.
- The discussion argues that Netflix’s early cash burn was an advantage because it built scale and a content moat before most competitors could match it.
- The guest says Netflix’s originals and selective licensing strategy strengthen the platform’s value per dollar of content spend.
- The host highlights Netflix’s culture and co-CEO setup as unusual but effective because the business has both a technical platform side and a creative content side.
Notable quotes
“I really see no end in sight to Netflix's ability to grow earnings per share at double-digit rates for years into the future”
“I mean, Netflix is the one streaming subscription that most people just never cancel”
“I would argue that producing shows and movies for global audiences is just way beyond their circle of competency as a software business at least”
“I think if people are watching and enjoying Netflix they're happy to pay pay a little bit for it”
How the episode opens
(00:00) Who says Netflix is not a big tech stock anymore? I mean, I don't care even if they did get dropped from the fang acronym to the MAG 7, the business is still doing incredibly well. From offering an ad supported tier to password crackdowns and hit shows worldwide, Netflix has really been flexing its muscle and compounding intrinsic value.
(00:23) So, when we see the stock drop 30% in 6 months, that definitely catches our interest. With growth internationally, subscription price hikes, and more advertising layered in, I really see no end in sight to Netflix's ability to grow earnings per share at double-digit rates for years into the future. Sean and I have slowly been ticking through the biggest names in markets from Amazon to Meta to Alphabet.
(00:49) And while we haven't covered every stock in the Max 7 yet, today we will be looking at another tech darling who was baked into the fang acronym that used to be the most popular way to describe the most significant companies in the US market. But over the past few years, everything's been about well the Max 7, which does not include Netflix. (01:09) It's a subtle shift in language, but actually I do think the implications are significant.
These types of terms can really define the eras of market history. And for Netflix to slip out of that signals a paradigm shift. So not to say that Netflix is some unknown business by any means, but it definitely doesn't capture investors imaginations in the way that it did even just a few years ago despite the business actually still chugging along pretty well.
(01:34) So I think that's what caught your interest, Sean. So there's still this incredible business here, but it has fallen out of favor recently and sentiment got extremely depressed in 2022.
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Topics
- streaming wars
- netflix business pivot
- blockbuster disruption
- intrinsic value modeling
- cash burn and competition
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NFLX
- Netflix
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