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The Intrinsic Value Podcast
· · Hosts: Kyle Grieve, Shawn O'Malley
Summary
Formula 1 Group is presented as a rare sports asset that monetizes a global fan base of 800 million through only 24 live events a year, with free cash flow margins above 24% and revenue growth the hosts describe as unusually durable. The discussion argues that F1’s appeal comes from the combination of scarcity, premium live experiences, and a long operating history stretching back to 1950, all of which support strong pricing power across race promotion, media rights, and sponsorships.
A major theme is the business’s defensive structure. The hosts explain that Liberty Media cleaned up a former tracking-stock structure in late 2025, that Formula 1 Group’s commercial rights run through 2110, and that multi-year contracts and global demand make the league hard to disrupt. They also frame F1’s moat as a mix of exclusive rights, brand strength, and network effects, with growth boosted by Drive to Survive, Netflix, and broader international exposure.
The episode is more cautious on capital structure and governance. The hosts question management’s use of EBITDA-like metrics, note roughly $3.4 billion of F1-level debt, and point to risks from Concorde agreements, race cancellations in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, and heavy team-payment obligations. Still, they argue the company’s cash generation, leverage trend, and multiple growth levers could support further deleveraging and continued expansion.
Key takeaways
- The host says Formula 1 Group owns the commercial rights to a sport with 800 million fans and collects revenue from 24 events a year.
- The guest argues F1’s moat is unusually strong because its rights run until 2110 and rivals cannot replicate the product or the brand.
- The host says Formula 1 Group generated over 900 million in operating cash flow in full year 2025, up from 567 million in 2024.
- The guest says the company’s U.S. media rights rose from about $85 million a year with ESPN to $140 million a year with Apple streaming.
- The host warns that Bahrain and Saudi Arabia were canceled in 2026, wiping out estimated race-level revenue of 150 million to 200 million each from the calendar.
Notable quotes
“Not the teams, not the athletes, just the right to broadcast, promote, and monetize every single race for the next 86 years”
“they're generating billions of dollars in revenue with over 24% free cash flow margins”
“F1 Group has the exclusive rights on a 100-year contract which ends in 2110”
“They've actually raised that up to 140 million a year”
How the episode opens
Imagine a company that owns the exclusive commercial rights to a sport with 800 million fans globally. Not the teams, not the athletes, just the right to broadcast, promote, and monetize every single race for the next 86 years. That company is Formula 1 Group, a subsidiary of Liberty Media.
And here's what's wild. They only host 24 events per year, fewer races than most sports old games in a single season. And yet they're generating billions of dollars in revenue with over 24% free cash flow margins.
But what really caught my attention is just how durable this business actually is. While most investors were sleeping on it, F1 has compounded revenue at 70% annually since Liberty acquired it in 2017 while being a relatively capital-like business. And today we'll find out whether a 75-year-old sport that most North American investors completely ignored until Netflix's Drive to Survive series came out can actually deliver the kind of returns that justify owning it at current prices or whether you need to wait for Mr.
Market to panicking again for the math to work. Hey folks, today we continue our quest of hunting for intrinsic value by looking at one of the most popular sports in the world. No, we are not talking about soccer, cricket or tennis.
We are going to look in depth at F1 racing, which is a sport with over 800 million fans worldwide, which is just absolutely mind-boggling. That's right, Sean. I mean, that stat just blew my mind as well.
But there's other things that also blew my mind. So, first is that this is a sport that hosts an absurdly low 24 events a year while generating billions of dollars in revenue, not only for its owner in Liberty Media Formula 1, but also for the individual teams that are involved in the races.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- f1 cash flow
- sports franchise profitability
- liberty media capital structure
- concorde agreements risk
- netflix f1 streaming growth
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NFLX
- Formula One Group
- Liberty Media
- Netflix
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