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Bitcoin Survives Biggest Crypto Hack In History?!

The Pomp Podcast · · Hosts: Anthony Pompliano · Guests: Jordi Visser

Bitcoin Survives Biggest Crypto Hack In History?! – The Pomp Podcast

Summary

Jordi Visser argues that the reported $6 billion Binance hack is less a crypto-specific event than another sign that AI-driven attacks are becoming a durable feature of the market. He says the immediate Bitcoin selloff was modest relative to the size of the breach, and that institutional involvement, ETF adoption, and Binance’s decision to backstop users make the long-term reaction more constructive than in prior cycles. He also thinks quantum concerns will accelerate security work across the industry.

Visser ties Bitcoin’s price action to a broader macro and liquidity backdrop: higher real rates, heavy AI-related capital spending, and a difficult trading environment where rallies have been grinding rather than clean. He expects Bitcoin to test the 200-day moving average and says the market remains choppy until a catalyst arrives, though he is becoming more constructive into the next six months.

The other big theme is AI adoption and valuation. Visser sees Anthropic’s S-1, Oracle’s investor day, Microsoft’s 60,000-person buyout offer, and Eli Lilly’s record quarter as evidence that fundamentals are still strong even as valuations cool. He is especially bullish Eli Lilly, calling it a rare business that combines durable cash flow, AI-enabled productivity, and long-term healthcare demand. He also says Bitcoin is the “purest AI trade” because AI raises both cyber risk and the case for decentralized money.

Key takeaways

  • Visser thinks the Binance hack is bullish over the long run because the market absorbed a $6 billion event with only about a 5% Bitcoin drawdown.
  • He says AI-powered hacking and quantum fears will keep pressure on crypto security, which should speed up infrastructure and custody upgrades.
  • Visser expects Bitcoin to stay choppy and possibly revisit the 200-day moving average before a new catalyst emerges.
  • He sees higher real rates and large AI capital raises as major drags on crypto, gold, silver, and the broader AI trade.
  • He is very bullish on Eli Lilly, citing 39% revenue growth, 83% gross margin, and 2026 revenue guidance raised to $91 billion to $92 billion.
  • He says Microsoft’s 60,000-person buyout offer and Anthropic’s customer base show AI is already forcing major labor and productivity changes.

Notable quotes

“I don't see this as anything more than another um fear factor that starts with AI agents”

— Jordi Visser at 0:56

“I think everyone has to come together. So, I'm going to take the side that this is just a normal maturation process of a new technology that's going through the headaches and that these things can't happen”

— Jordi Visser at 9:13

“I always say Bitcoin is the purest AI trade. I believe that AI is only going to intensify the downside going forward”

— Jordi Visser at 38:41

Topics

  • binance hack
  • ai cyber attacks
  • interest rates
  • ai bubble debate
  • msft labor buyout

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • MSFT
  • LLY
  • PLTR
  • Binance
  • Anthropic
  • Microsoft
  • Eli Lilly
  • FTX
  • Palantir

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