Episode summary
AI Terminator Fears Grow & Rates Breach 4.9% | The Weekly Wrap
The Real Eisman Playbook
· · 23 min · Hosts: Steve Eisman · Guests: Scott Bessent, Ed Zitron, Bill Pulte
Summary
Longer rates were the main macro focus: the 10-year Treasury yield broke above 4.8% and then 4.9% as war-related oil strength fed inflation worries, while the host argued that higher rates are a real headwind for equities and the broader economy. He also criticized Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s effort to buy long-dated Treasuries as too small to matter, and said the market had not been impressed by the expanded repurchase authority.
On AI, the host pushed back hard on apocalyptic forecasts that artificial intelligence could cause human extinction by the end of the decade. He said there is still no evidence that AI will reach AGI and framed the real issue as building systems people can trust, not science-fiction style superintelligence. He also reviewed listener arguments that Nvidia’s high margins, plus hyperscaler spending, could accelerate competition and lower model costs over time.
The week’s company tape was mixed. Tesla’s robotaxi event disappointed and the stock fell 6%, reinforcing his skepticism about Elon Musk’s history of overpromising. OpenAI cut prices on its GPT 5.6 Luna model, Qualcomm struck a custom AI-chip deal with Amazon, and Oracle posted 30% revenue growth but remained heavily reliant on OpenAI. He also argued that FICO’s monopoly is vulnerable, while Macy’s and GameStop showed pockets of improvement but not enough to restore their old narratives.
Key takeaways
- The host thinks the 10-year yield above 4.9% is a meaningful stress point for equities and the real economy.
- The host argues Treasury’s bond-buying program is too small versus $40 trillion of federal debt to move rates meaningfully.
- The host remains skeptical that AI will reach AGI or produce a near-term human-extinction scenario.
- The host says Tesla’s robotaxi reveal disappointed and that the stock’s valuation still depends on faith in that business.
- The host sees Oracle’s 30% growth as strong but says dependence on OpenAI makes the setup fragile.
- The host thinks FICO’s pricing power is likely to break, making it an attractive short idea.
Notable quotes
“The equity markets in my view will not be able to tolerate some level of higher long-term rates”
“former anthropic researcher warned that artificial intelligence has a realistic chance of causing human extinction by the end of the decade”
“Count me a skeptic. There is still no evidence that AI is ever going to achieve AGI, artificial general intelligence”
“When it comes to the robo taxi business, Elon Musk has a history of overpromising and underdelivering”
“Oracle reported Thursday night. In some ways, it was a very good quarter”
How the episode opens
The Trump administration is issuing multiple and somewhat threatening statements that the Fed should not raise rates. My guess is that these threats will be ignored. The market is projecting a 60% chance that the Fed will raise rates at the September meeting.
Oracle reported Thursday night. In some ways, it was a very good quarter. Macy's reported, GameStop reported, "When it comes to the robo taxi business, Elon Musk has a history of overpromising and underdeling.
The future of this company depends on the success of the robo taxi. former anthropic researcher warned that artificial intelligence has a realistic chance of causing human extinction by the end of the decade. So, I think there's some other shoe that could drop here.
So, let's get started. Hi, this is Steve Eisman and welcome to the weekly rap. This is for the week ending Friday, September 11, but recorded Thursday night, September 10.
This last Wednesday on our premium Substack subscription service, we posted a great interview with Ed Zitron, creator of the newsletter, Where's Your Ed? The hyperscalers are starting to expect real money from AI entirely from anthropic and open AI spending money on compute. And that's why they're still spending all the money on capex.
doing it so they can capture revenue from two companies that they themselves have to keep inflating. This is a catastrophe.
Ed is a prolific writer and critic of the entire AI ecosystem. Premium chat is a lively forum and today I will reference two relevant comments about Editron and explain their significance in the AI debate and my opinion on this rapidly evolving and fascinating conversation. This coming Wednesday, September 16th, we will drop on premium part one of a two-part master class on how to analyze banks.
I'm providing you with all the tools to understand how banks work and how to think about large cap, midcap, and small cap banks and the investment banks as well.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- ten-year yield breach
- ai doom fears
- openai price cuts
- tesla robotaxi disappointment
- earnings updates
Companies and tickers mentioned
- ORCL
- TSLA
- QCOM
- AMZN
- FICO
- M
- GME
- OpenAI
- Oracle
- Tesla
- Qualcomm
- Amazon
- Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO)
- Macy's
- GameStop
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