Episode summary
Why Dario Amodei and Sam Altman Are Faking the AI Doomsday Crisis | The Weekly Wrap
The Real Eisman Playbook
· · 25 min · Hosts: Steve Eisman · Guests: Dario Amodei, Sam Altman
Summary
The host argues that the market is being pulled in multiple directions by war-driven oil inflation, higher long-term rates, and the Fed’s 25 basis point hike to 3.75% to 4%, with the 10-year yield briefly above 5% acting as the key line for risk assets. He says the rise in rates is not just about inflation, but also about a crowding-out effect from roughly $500 billion in AI-related debt that is competing with Treasuries for long-duration capital.
He also says the FICO short remains intact because the company raised prices 1,600% over five years and is now facing pushback from regulators and alternative scoring systems like VantageScore. He notes that FICO is down 43% year to date and argues the mortgage-scoring monopoly is starting to break, while mortgage insurers are likely next in the regulatory crosshairs.
The biggest argument is that the recent AI extinction warnings from Anthropic and OpenAI leadership are not genuine doomsday concerns but a tactic. The host says the CEOs are trying to manufacture fear, invite regulation, and create pricing moats just as business conditions worsen, token growth slows, and capital costs rise. He says the intended “slowdown” is inconsistent with their huge revenue commitments and that President Trump’s refusal to regulate AI may undercut the strategy.
Key takeaways
- The host thinks 5% on the 10-year Treasury is the market’s current stress line, and higher long-term rates are being amplified by AI debt issuance.
- He remains short FICO because he believes the company abused a mortgage-scoring monopoly and that VantageScore adoption will keep rising.
- The host says the Clarity Act setback is a major blow for crypto after the industry spent heavily lobbying for a clearer U.S. rulebook.
- He argues the AI doom narrative is a strategic move to win regulation and protect pricing power, not a sincere warning about extinction.
- For diversification, he suggests staples, healthcare, low-volatility ETFs, and property-and-casualty insurance as relatively uncorrelated ways to reduce AI exposure.
Notable quotes
“AI won't cause extinction, but these two CEOs are creating massive damage. It's a perfect storm”
“This year, approximately 500 billion in AI related debt has been raised. That's a lot of long-term debt and it is creating a crowding out effect”
“I have been short FICO for a while. My thesis was that the company got greedy and raised prices 1,600%”
“The entire future of anthropic and open AI depends on there not being any slowdown”
“I think they believe that via that regulation they can create moes that will foster an AI duopoly”
How the episode opens
Oil prices approached $110. This has sparked more inflation fears and the market is feeling dicey. The crypto world had a bad week and it is unclear where the industry goes from here.
FICO wields a monopoly in mortgage credit scoring and its monopoly is going to break. Is AI really going to destroy us all or is something else going on? Dario Amodi, the CEO of Anthropic, followed up with his own doomsday thoughts.
The entire future of anthropic and open AI depends on there not being any slowdown. AI won't cause extinction, but these two CEOs are creating massive damage. It's a perfect storm.
So, what's really going on? Here's my theory. Hi, this is Steve Eisman and welcome to the weekly rap.
This is for the week ending Friday, September 18th, but recorded Thursday night, September 17th. This last Wednesday, September 16, on our premium Substack subscription service, we posted part one of a two-part master class on how to analyze banks. I'm providing you with all the tools to understand how banks work and how to think about large cap, midcap, and small cap banks and the investment banks as well.
Originally, we had planned for part two to drop in two weeks. However, we changed our minds and part two will now drop next Wednesday, September 23rd. On this week's rap, we will discuss one, the war in Iran, the rising price of oil, the Fed and interest rates.
Two, has Scott Bessant lost all credibility. Three, more news on FICO, the credit bureaus, and now the mortgage insurers. Four, the crypto world had a bad week.
And five, is AI really going to destroy us all or is something else going on? The war in Iran continues with no sign of any letup. Both sides are bombing each other and doing damage.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- fed rates
- ai doomsday narratives
- federal legislation clarity act
- fico short
- crypto market hit
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Federal Reserve
- FICO
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