Episode summary
"Bad Things" To Happen As US Dollar Strengthens | Brent Johnson
Thoughtful Money
· · 1 hr 45 min · Guests: Brent Johnson, Mike Preston
Summary
The interview argues that the dollar’s relative strength is the key macro variable to watch, not because the dollar is “awesome,” but because it remains the cleanest dirty shirt in a system full of strain. Brent Johnson says the dollar can keep oscillating within a band, but if it breaks materially above that range, foreign balance sheets, carry trades, and liquidity conditions can unravel fast. He treats a move from roughly 102 toward 105 and especially 110 as the kind of break that would likely trigger broad forced selling.
He frames Europe, especially France, as the clearest example of a “slow shave”: rising sovereign yields, weaker growth, higher defense spending, and dollar-linked funding pressures all force governments toward financial repression and euro debasement. In his view, these pressures do not imply an immediate collapse, but they do steadily remove purchasing power and constrain policy choices.
Johnson also argues that the latest political swing in the U.S. should not be overread. He sees midterm pendulum swings as part of a longer historical ratchet, with domestic politics changing tone while the larger trajectory—deglobalization, geopolitical competition, and U.S. power projection—stays intact. He says the U.S. and China are locked in a technology and compute race, and stablecoins are increasingly part of a U.S.-advantaged financial architecture.
Key takeaways
- Johnson says the dollar’s danger zone is a breakout above roughly 105, with 110 implying a liquidity event that could force broad asset sales.
- He expects Europe, especially France, to absorb the pain of higher yields before the U.S. does because it cannot print dollars and lacks full monetary sovereignty.
- Johnson says investors should keep cash or hedges because being able to buy from distressed sellers matters more than chasing every upside move.
- He thinks the election outcome changes the political noise, but not the longer U.S. trajectory of deglobalization, fiscal strain, and geopolitical competition.
- He argues compute, electricity, and stablecoins are becoming strategic tools of U.S. power, not just financial or tech trends.
Notable quotes
“if the dollar breaks out to the upside of that band, that's when bad things start to happen”
“the whole system can kind of work and the world can live with both dual carry trades that they have to deal with”
“The The market's trying to figure out where to go from here”
“if the dollar goes from let's say like 102 now. Let's say if it goes to 105 in a hurry, I think you're going to see elevated volatility”
How the episode opens
If the dollar stays between approximately 90 and 105 or 85 and 105 on a relative basis, the whole system can kind of work and the world can live with both dual carry trades that they have to deal with. But if the dollar breaks out to the upside of that band, that's when bad things start to happen and we're getting relatively close to where that is now.
Welcome to Thoughtful Money. I'm Thoughtful Money founder and your host Adam Taggart welcoming you here for a very special guest on a very special day where we're going to talk about debt, gold, the elections, maybe even the the the tech wreck that's happening in real time as we're recording this with the dollar milkshake man himself, Brent Johnson. Brent, how you doing?
I'm good, thanks. It was good to see you last week.
It was good to see you last week, Brent. It's always fun to spend time with you in person and um I guess I'll just I was going to talk about this later, but I'll mention it right now. So, we were hanging out in the green room and you were sitting next to Peter Schiff and I got in between the two of you, snapped a photo, posted it on X and then within like 2 minutes somebody posted this and turned it into an AI sketch and it was right around Halloween.
So, it was a little AI sketch. I'll play it right now for folks so they can see what I'm talking about.
All right, guys. Halloween time. Let's do this. Yeah, let's get these costumes on. I'm going for the gold. Let's go. Time to shake things up. FEEL THE BURN. I'm worth my weight in fun. BEST HALLOWEEN EVER.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- dollar strength
- european sovereign debt
- carry trades
- gold outlook
- stablecoins
Companies and tickers mentioned
- New Harbor Financial
- Santiago Capital
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