Episode summary
$500K Income, $900K Saved: Will FIRE at 55 Work?
Your Money Your Wealth
· · 48 min · Hosts: Joe Anderson, Big Al Clopine · Guests: Dr. Kickass Seabass, Aang, Katara, Steph, Ayesha
Summary
The episode walks through three very different early-retirement cases and keeps coming back to the same question: how much income must the portfolio actually replace once pensions, Social Security, and part-time work are in the mix. For Dr. Kickass Seabass and his wife, both 41 and earning a combined $500,000, the hosts think FIRE at 55 is possible but tight. Using roughly $900,000 saved, $100,000 a year of current saving, and projected spending that rises with inflation, they conclude the plan looks more comfortable at 60 than at 55, unless the couple accepts a higher withdrawal rate or adds part-time income.
For Ang and Qatara, the hosts are much more relaxed about the stock allocation because the military pension is so large. They argue that a $117,000 pension, plus another expected pension later, acts like a bond sleeve already, so an 80/10/10 stock mix in the TSP is not too aggressive if the portfolio is not the main source of retirement cash flow. The main planning task, they say, is figuring out current spending and how much of it must still come from the portfolio.
Steph’s case is more complicated because of a mandatory retirement at 56 and a desire to stop at 50. After running the numbers, the hosts think the plan could work depending on spending, pension timing, and whether the family really wants to fund a major home expansion. They also explain why a cost segregation study only helps if the tax deductions can actually be used.
Key takeaways
- The hosts think Dr. Kickass Seabass and his wife are on track, but 55 looks a little tight and 60 looks more comfortable given their savings and spending assumptions.
- The hosts estimate Dr. Kickass Seabass could need roughly $6 million to $7 million to retire at 55 with a safer withdrawal rate and a long bridge to Social Security.
- For Ang and Qatara, the hosts say a $117,000 military pension makes an all-stock or near-all-stock TSP allocation much more reasonable because the pension is effectively fixed income already.
- The hosts tell Steph that the right allocation depends on how much the pensions cover, not on a generic stock-to-bond rule, and they suggest planning around actual annual spending first.
- The hosts say a cost segregation study only makes sense if the rental-property depreciation can be used now, not merely deferred to a future sale.
Notable quotes
“I think to me there's a couple ways to look at I would probably personally work to age 60 just for more cushion”
“his pension is so giant that to to be honest with you, it's like if you can't, you know, he he's not going to have a huge demand for the portfolio”
“you can't decide the right allocation how aggressive to invest and when to start dialing back until you know your spend at the very least”
“Cost segregation study is where you can accelerate depreciation on a rental property”
How the episode opens
Joe and Big Al spitball for three people planning for early retirement and wondering, can I really pull this off? How much risk can you take and how much do you really need to? That's today on Your Money Your Wealth podcast number 588.
Dr. Kickass Seabbass and his wife are both 41 and they got a late start on savings. Can they still hit fire?
That is financial independence retire early by age 55. Get your salt shakers ready. Ang and Qatara have military pensions and a big thrift savings plan.
should they invest it aggressively or play it safe over the next decade. Finally, Steph has a mandatory retirement at 56 but wants out even sooner at age 50. If his wife Aisha doesn't kill him first for quitting 7 years before her.
Three early exits, three very different risk calls. What do you think? Tell me in the YouTube comments.
And while you're there, follow YW and turn on notifications so you don't miss a thing. I'm executive producer Andy Last and here are the hosts of Your Money, Your Wealth, Joey Anderson, CFP, and Big Al Copeline CPA.
We got uh kickass CBass from New Jersey. What's from uh Dumb and Dumber? — Dumb and Dumber. That's right. — Hi Joel, Andy, longtime listener, third time questioner. Um first, I'm glad you got the reference to Dumb and Dumber. Yeah, of course. Uh that's a great movie. Important stuff first. My drink of choice is a wheat beer. Wives is a whiskey. I drive a Ford Fusion. Go America.
I heard a lot of that. Uh I like Yeah. — Back back Alabama. — Uh was not in Alabama. I was in Arkansas. — Oh, I met — The other a state. — But yeah, you know, one of those states over there.
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Topics
- fire planning
- retirement income strategies
- risk tolerance
- military pension and tsp investing
- mandatory retirement timeline
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Pure Financial Advisors, LLC
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