Episode summary
Can You Afford Early Retirement AND Millions for Your Kids?
Summary
The episode centered on three high-asset retirement planning questions: whether Lloyd and Diane can retire early, spend about $250,000 a year, and still give to their kids; whether Kent should buy an immediate annuity and fund gifts now despite already having millions; and whether John should sell a San Francisco Bay Area home to move to Nevada to maximize what he leaves to two daughters with special needs.
For Lloyd and Diane, the hosts argued the budget is workable even before Social Security, and that the bigger issue is tax planning. They urged Roth conversions while the couple is still in lower brackets after retirement, suggested the hedge fund allocation may be an expensive drag, and said the brokerage account could be used for spending and sequencing as they near retirement. They also noted that retiring around age 55 would improve flexibility because of penalty-free access to 401(k) money.
For Kent, the hosts said an annuity is not necessary because his income and assets already cover spending needs, but they agreed annuities can make sense in some cases for people who want guaranteed cash flow. For John, they leaned against selling the Bay Area house purely for financial reasons, saying the current home likely offers better long-term appreciation than Nevada and that staying put could still support the daughters if the family builds the right plan.
Key takeaways
- Lloyd and Diane appear able to retire early on their current savings, with the hosts estimating their spending rate is still comfortably supported.
- The hosts said Roth conversions should be a priority for Lloyd and Diane, especially up to the 24% bracket, because future RMDs could be large.
- The hosts thought Lloyd and Diane’s hedge fund allocation may be costly and questioned whether it deserves a place in a retirement portfolio.
- Kent’s annuity idea was judged unnecessary because his existing assets and Social Security already cover his spending, though the hosts said annuities can fit some income-first plans.
- John was advised to consider staying in the San Francisco Bay Area home if the goal is maximizing future inheritance, because the hosts expect stronger appreciation than in Nevada.
Notable quotes
“I think you do Roth conversions all day long because they”
“Roth conversions are really important in this case, not only for you and your future taxes, but also for your kids”
How the episode opens
Can you fund your retirement and financially support your kids, too? That's today on Your Money, Your Wealth podcast number 605. Lloyd and Diane in Montgomery County are 50 with 8.4 million dollars. — Can they retire early and still be generous with their kids? E and T in Missouri are 34 and 31 with 255k and hopefully some big inheritances in the future. Can they fund the kids' colleges and help them buy their first homes and retire early?
Ken in Kansas City is 73 with 12 million bucks and 2 million dollars in life insurance. Did Joe and Big Al back up his plan to buy an annuity, gift money to his kids now, and still spend freely in retirement die with zero style? Finally, should John in the San Francisco Bay Area sell his family home and move to Nevada or hold the house for his autistic daughters to inherit later?
We'll have a brand new episode for you next week, but in meantime, enjoy this encore presentation of an episode from March of this year. I'm executive producer Andy Last and here are the hosts of Your Money, Your Wealth. Joe Anderson, CFP, and Big Al Clopine, CPA.
Let's go with Hi guys, this is Lloyd. and Diane. Oh. — And that one's from Say Anything. Dobler, yeah. — Oh, Dob- No, really? — Yeah. — Say Anything. That's That's the movie with the um Cusack, right? — Yeah, John Cusack and uh what was her name?
Holding up the boom box over his head in the rain. — Yeah. Yes, that's the one. Ione Skye, that was her name. Yes. — That picture of him with the boom box, that's like an icon picture of — Yeah, that one.
Yeah, there you go.
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Topics
- early retirement
- funding kids college
- housing and inheritances
- annuities and gifting
- estate planning
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Pure Financial Advisors, LLC
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