Episode summary
Retirement vs. House Down Payment: Are You Getting the Timing Wrong?
Your Money Your Wealth
· · 37 min · Hosts: Joe Anderson, Big Al Clopine · Guests: Gord, Carrie Bradshaw, Archie, Veronica
Summary
The hosts argue that the right timing for a home purchase depends less on market forecasts than on getting the financing, monthly payment, and cash reserves lined up. For a 35-year-old in New York City with about $300,000 in liquid assets and a future relationship-driven move, they say it makes sense to start the mortgage and pre-approval process now and move taxable brokerage money to cash if the purchase is likely soon. They also caution that ownership brings higher ongoing costs, so the real test is whether the monthly payment fits comfortably without compromising retirement saving.
For the 33-year-old in California targeting a $1.3 million to $1.7 million home, the hosts say the down payment should be at least 20% and that the down payment money should be shifted out of stocks within about three years of needing it. They prefer keeping long-term money invested in stocks and short-term home-buying money in cash or short-term bonds, rather than mixing the two.
For Archie and Veronica in Missouri, the hosts say their savings rate is not too high given their $250,000 annual spending goal and strong income. But they disagree on Roth versus pre-tax 403(b) saving, and they say 529 contributions, mortgage prepayments, and retirement timing should be guided by the family’s actual spending target and desired retirement age, not by a generic rule.
Key takeaways
- The host says a home purchase should start with pre-approval, a realtor, and a monthly payment estimate, not with waiting for a perfect market.
- For the New York City buyer, the hosts say selling taxable brokerage assets to cash is reasonable if a home purchase is likely soon.
- For the California buyer, the hosts recommend at least 20% down and moving down-payment money into cash or short-term bonds within about three years of purchase.
- The host says long-term money can stay mostly in stocks at age 33, while the home fund should be protected from market risk.
- For Archie and Veronica, the hosts say their current savings rate appears appropriate for a $250,000 spending goal and a mid-50s retirement target.
- The hosts split on Roth 403(b) contributions, with one favoring Roth at a 35% bracket and the other preferring pre-tax saving.
Notable quotes
“I would go into cash um as soon as you start looking. Right. I would get a realer tomorrow”
“I think you start the process, but I I get it is that, you know, your your first home, you find your spouse, and then it's like kids are on the way”
“I would put $250,000 in short-term bonds and cash”
How the episode opens
How do you buy a house as a young person without wrecking your long-term retirement plan? That's today on Your Money, Your Wealth podcast number 599. As Joe and Big Al pitfall for 35-year-old Gourd in New York City, he's got $300,000 saved and a home purchase is coming soon thanks to a new relationship.
Should he liquidate his brokerage account and pull the trigger? Carrie Bradshaw in California is 33 and wants to buy a roughly $ 1.5 million home. When should she move the down payment money out of the market?
And can she avoid derailing early retirement? Finally, Archie and Veronica in Missouri are 41 and 34, pulling in $600,000 a year and saving close to 200,000 of it. Are they saving too much?
Should they pay off their mortgage or keep investing? Whether you're watching us on YouTube or Spotify or Apple Podcasts or listening on any of the podcast apps, make sure you're following YMYW so you never miss us making fun of finance. I'm executive producer Andy Last and here are the hosts of Your Money, Your Wealth, Joe Anderson, CFP, and Big Al Copline CPA.
Hey Joe, Big Al. Andy, love the show. I'm 35 living in New York City.
Current assets include $160,000 in my 401k, $1,000 in my Roth. Salaries about $120,000 per year including bonuses. I'm currently contributing 9% to my traditional and another 4% is the employer match and 66 6% to my Roth.
I've managed to save $30,000 in cash in savings as well as $125,000 in a brokerage account. I have an exciting career in a cultural industry with a decent upside and salary and I expect that I'll probably want to max this trajectory into my late60s or beyond. I love my work and would absolutely die of boredom if I pursued anything close to a fire strategy.
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Topics
- retirement planning
- house down payment timing
- brokerage liquidation
- mortgage payoff vs investing
- early retirement strategy
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Pure Financial Advisors, LLC
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