Episode summary
The Case for a Year-End Melt-Up | TCAF 218
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· · Hosts: Michael Batnick, Josh Brown · Guests: Warren Pies
Summary
Nvidia’s earnings were the catalyst for a broader argument that the AI trade still has room to run. Warren Pies and the hosts said the report relieved sentiment more than it changed fundamentals: Blackwell demand remained strong, cloud GPUs were sold out, and management kept raising guidance, which helped reset fears around execution and chip obsolescence. Warren Pies argued the useful-life debate is largely a sentiment issue, not a fundamental one, because older Nvidia chips are still being used and AI spending still appears to have runway.
The conversation then widened into market structure. Pies said the market is more concentrated than at any point he can remember, with a small group of mega-cap tech names carrying the index while many other stocks lag badly. He argued that this narrow leadership is unlikely to shift decisively before year-end, even if there is some broadening. The hosts and Pies also debated whether some of the pessimism is wishcasting from investors who missed the trade.
From there, Pies tied the macro backdrop to a K-shaped economy. He said housing affordability best captures the lower K, with the income needed to buy a median U.S. home rising sharply since the pandemic. That pressure, he argued, is why policymakers will lean toward easier policy, but he does not think that automatically makes small caps the right trade. Instead, he expects the Fed to support the bull market while the most powerful leaders keep leading into year-end.
Key takeaways
- Warren Pies said Nvidia’s quarter was strong enough to calm nerves, with Blackwell sales, sold-out cloud GPUs, and raised guidance reinforcing the AI spending thesis.
- Pies argued the useful-life debate around Nvidia chips is mostly a sentiment concern, because older A100 GPUs are still running at full utilization.
- The market remains unusually narrow, with Pies saying leaders in mega-cap tech are still more likely than laggards to drive year-end performance.
- Pies said the K-shaped economy is real, and he sees housing affordability as the clearest chart explaining pressure on the lower half of the income distribution.
- Pies does not think a Fed easing bias automatically makes small caps the right trade; he said they usually work best after a washout and early-cycle reset.
- The hosts and Pies expect a year-end rally if prices stay constructive, because narratives tend to follow price and corporate buybacks are seasonally supportive.
Notable quotes
“Blackwell sales are off the charts. Cloud GPUs are sold out. Compute demand keeps accelerating and compounding across training and inference, each growing exponentially”
“We've entered the virtuous cycle of AI”
“the lower part of the K is best represented and it's not everything but by the housing market and housing affordability”
“The Fed is not going to try to teach the upper K a lesson here”
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the compound. and friends. We have a returning champion, one of our favorite guests.
Michael and I are so excited to welcome Warren Pies back to the show for what we believe may be his fifth appearance. He is our uh Tom Hanks. We got to come up with a robe or a jacket.
Warren Pis is the co-founder and chief strategist of 314 Research. Prior to founding 314 Research, Warren led Ned Davis Research's energy and commodity strategy. Warren is a contributor to numerous media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal and CNBC.
Warren, thank you so much for joining us for this special remote but all the way lit edition of TCAF. We'd love to see you. Thank you for having me.
Number five, I think that I don't know if that's setting a record, but feels feels important. Feels good. You know, it's a bubble in Warren Pies and all we're doing is fueling it.
We're just That's right, baby. The best kind of bubble. Good to have you, Michael.
How'd you sleep last night?
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Topics
- nvidia earnings
- year-end melt-up
- housing affordability
- fed policy
- profit margins
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NVDA
- Nvidia
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