Episode summary
The Truth Behind Private Equity’s Megaboom | TCAF 207
Summary
The conversation centers on the rapid expansion of private markets into wealth management, with Michael Sidgmore arguing that the space is now a roughly $25 trillion pool across private equity, private credit, hedge funds, infrastructure, secondaries, real estate, and GP stakes. He says private equity remains the largest component, but the most important growth vectors are secondaries and especially the wealth channel, which he believes is still early in its adoption of private markets compared with institutions.
A major theme is product structure. Sidgmore explains why evergreen funds, interval funds, and tender offer funds are becoming popular: they let advisers add capital continuously and offer some redemption access, while still fitting the long-duration nature of private assets. He says the traditional closed-end drawdown model works for institutions, but the wealth channel needs a structure that better matches clients’ cash-flow needs and advisers’ business models.
The episode also presses on the industry’s cynicism. The hosts question whether the push into wealth is driven partly by institutions being fully allocated and by private managers chasing new fees. Sidgmore agrees there is truth to that, but argues the deeper story is that the best private firms are building real distribution, technology, and branding capabilities. He sees more tie-ups like T. Rowe Price/Goldman Sachs and says private credit, private equity, and public-market managers are all converging around the same wealth platform opportunity.
Key takeaways
- Michael Sidgmore says private markets are about $25 trillion today, with private equity the largest segment and secondaries a likely next big growth area.
- Sidgmore argues the wealth channel is still early, with private wealth around 1% to 3% allocated to private markets versus roughly 15% to 20% for institutions.
- He says evergreen structures are gaining traction because advisers need continuous access, smaller minimums, and better matching of client liquidity needs than closed-end drawdown funds offer.
- The hosts and Sidgmore agree that some of the wealth push is driven by fee pressure and institutions reaching allocation limits, but Sidgmore says the business is also being reshaped by real market structure changes.
- Sidgmore says private credit is resonating most with advisers because it offers current income, floating rates, and an easier story to sell than private equity.
Notable quotes
“about 25 trillion of assets in alternatives or private markets today”
“I think it's the 8020 rule maybe even the 9010 rule of at many of these firms even the big wirehouses there's you know 10% of the advisers are doing 90% of the flows today”
“evergreen funds are they're not closed end draw down vehicles”
“I do not call them liquid. They are very much not liquid”
“I think private credit resonates most with adviserss now for the reasons you discussed”
How the episode opens
Where do you live? — Between uh DC and here. — Okay. Uh — So I split my time. — Where you where are you more often? — Here. I'm here pretty much every Our office is three blocks up from you. — So why are you also in DC?
It's where I built the home podcast studio when I started AGM during co — You know you could move the microphones. — I could I could you know I know I could move the microphones. — It is it's a cool background though. So it's hard to
I listen I listened to your show and I really liked it and um I know it's very longunning. You've done a ton of episodes. — He called it but he caught one. — No, you Dude, you're you can do it. You're good. You're good.
Appreciate it. — It's good to hear from another podcaster. — I thought that this episode was just going to be I thought I was going to be in this seat. Josh was not supposed to be here. So, I invited you.
Surprise, surprise. — So, I invited you and somebody who canled 24 hours ago. — Dead to us, right, Nicole? — And I'm not going to name companies. I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to do it. No, I'm not going to do it. But let's just say it rhymes with Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Do it. — And listen, you are not encumbered by corporate speed. You could — Yeah, but I saw I saw the person's title and I don't know how they even got into our show. — What do you mean? We have to go.
This person was like the vice president of human resources or something.
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Topics
- private equity megaboom
- private markets evolution
- evergreen funds
- volatility in alternatives
- t. rowe price goldman deal
Companies and tickers mentioned
- TROW
- GS
- Broadhaven Ventures
- T. Rowe Price
- Goldman Sachs
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