Episode summary
SpaceX, AI, and ETF Opportunities
ETF Prime
· · 55 min · Hosts: Nate Geraci, Simeon Hyman · Guests: Zeno Mercer, Paul Baiocchi
Summary
The episode centered on how the recent SpaceX IPO and the expected public debuts of OpenAI and Anthropic are reshaping both market sentiment and ETF design. Zeno Mercer argued that these companies are not just model or space names, but platform businesses spanning digital and physical AI, with huge potential value capture across satellites, robotics, infrastructure, and consumer products. He said the enthusiasm is real, but so is the risk of paying up for a concentrated bet on a handful of very expensive names.
Mercer also stressed that the biggest opportunity may sit outside the headline stocks, in the broader AI and robotics value chain: automation, semiconductor inspection, industrial robotics, system integrators, and electrification. He said software and SaaS are under pressure because AI can replace many functions previously sold as standalone software. Paul Baiocchi made the portfolio case for staying disciplined, warning that market-cap-weighted indices could become even more concentrated as these mega-IPOs enter benchmarks.
Baiocchi highlighted EQL, Alps’ equal sector-weight ETF, as a way to reduce concentration without abandoning the market. He also pointed to electrification, energy infrastructure, and MLP exposure as beneficiaries of AI-driven power demand, arguing that the grid, utilities, materials, and natural gas infrastructure remain central to the AI buildout.
Key takeaways
- Mercer said SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic are platform plays, not just single-product businesses, because they can expand into satellites, robotics, wearables, and infrastructure.
- Mercer argued that software-as-a-service faces real deflationary pressure as AI lets users build and automate workflows with far less technical skill.
- Baiocchi said the influx of mega-IPOs could intensify concentration in the S&P 500 and NASDAQ 100 as benchmarks absorb these companies.
- Baiocchi framed EQL as a cleaner way to reduce concentration risk by equal-weighting the 11 S&P sectors instead of equal-weighting stocks.
- Baiocchi said electrification, energy infrastructure, and MLPs may benefit from AI’s enormous power demand and the buildout of data centers.
- Both guests said investors should look beyond the headline AI names to the suppliers, power providers, and integrators that enable the AI economy.
Notable quotes
“this is going to be an innovation flywheel. You're going to see people leave SpaceX, SpaceX Mafia over time”
“just take the 500 stocks in the S&P 500 and equally weight them”
“EQL just takes the 11 gig sectors in the S&P 500 and and weights them equally”
“software as a service is clearly under some pressure uh due to AI”
How the episode opens
EQL just takes the 11 gig sectors in the S&P 500 and and weights them equally. And so naturally, you're going to have a much more balanced sector profile than an equal stock weighted portfolio. All right, joining me will be Zeno Mercer, head of robotics and artificial intelligence research at Vetify, along with Paul Bayaki, head of fund sales and strategy at SSNC Alps Advisors, who's of course a 20 plus billion dollar ETF issuer.
And these will be two separate conversations, but we're actually going to cover a number of related topics, including the recent SpaceX IPO and how that's impacting markets and the ETF world right now. Certainly, a lot going on there. Uh we'll also discuss forthcoming IPOs from OpenAI and Anthropic and talk about those from an ETF perspective to include these new Mangoes ETF filings from several issuers last week.
Mangoes ETFs. I'll explain that if you're not familiar. Uh let's see.
We'll also get into some ETF categories that are both benefiting and suffering as a result of the rise of AI and companies like SpaceX and Open AI and Anthropic. a lot we're going to cover with our resident AI and technology expert in Zeno and then an excellent all-around market and ETF resource and Paul should be excellent conversations as always questions or comments you can find me on Xnate Jerase or you can go to ETF prime.com so let me first welcome in Vetifies Zeno Mercer who's joining us from Tampa Zeno it's been a while since you were last on here but welcome back to the Thanks for having me back. Yeah, I mean good timing with all the action that's happening, which is normally, you know, maybe a quiet summer.
It's not really quiet so far. So, good to be back.
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Topics
- spacex ipo
- ai ipos
- mangos etf filings
- ai revolution winners and losers
- robotics ai research
Companies and tickers mentioned
- SpaceX
- OpenAI
- Anthropic
- VettaFi
- SS&C ALPS Advisors
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