Episode summary
Is The AI Selloff A Buying Opportunity? | Warren Pies
Summary
Warren Pies said he has taken equity risk down because market internals have weakened even though he still thinks the AI build-out has more room to run. He framed his process as building conviction on fundamentals and managing risk with technicals, pointing to a market consolidation, financials rolling over versus staples, and hyperscaler credit spreads widening again as signs that the uptrend may be pausing or breaking down. He said he is not seeing the kind of sentiment washout that would justify buying aggressively yet.
On AI, Warren argued the trade remains intact on the fundamental side. He pointed to tight GPU availability, rising rental rates, contango in longer-dated compute pricing, stronger hyperscaler cloud revenue, and Anthropic’s economics as evidence that demand is still outrunning supply. But he also said the funding side is becoming more important now that the build-out is increasingly dependent on external capital rather than free cash flow.
He sees the bigger macro risk as the Fed. Warren said the correlation between the 10-year and Nasdaq matters more now than the oil link did previously, because rates are increasingly reacting to the AI capex boom. He thinks higher rates could slow financing, pressure venture-backed demand, and hurt semis first, while the rest of the economy looks weak but not yet recessionary.
On oil, Warren said the Iran conflict and blockade have created a very distorted market, with diesel cracks, distillates, and shipping all stretched. He thinks the next major oil move depends on geopolitics and that the current setup could accelerate a more multipolar energy landscape and a durable shift in U.S. posture in the Middle East.
Key takeaways
- Warren Pies said he downgraded equities because market momentum weakened, financials rolled over versus staples, and hyperscaler credit spreads widened before prices fully corrected.
- He still thinks the AI trade is fundamentally intact because GPU supply remains tight, rental rates are rising, and longer-dated compute pricing is moving higher.
- Warren said the Fed is the main near-term risk to AI because higher rates can choke off debt issuance and venture funding that now support the build-out.
- He argued the market is already pricing AI through semis, making the AI complex a key transmission channel for broader equity direction.
- On oil, Warren said the Iran blockade has left diesel cracks and distillates extremely tight, and he expects volatility to persist until geopolitics force a clearing event.
Notable quotes
“I build conviction on fundamentals but manage risk with technicals”
“the bottom line is when you get into one of those consolidations, you've lost momentum in the market”
“the objective facts tell me that the AI trade is in intact still”
“we've never seen the Fed cutting into a capex cycle”
“this is totally unbalanced. The shipping is unbalanced. Crack spreads, as you referenced, are totally blown out”
How the episode opens
Nothing said on Ford guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell any investments or products. All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Forward Guidance and excited to be joined today by repeat guest Warren Pis, founder of 314 Research. Warren, always great to have you. What's going on, man?
Yeah, man. Likewise. Always enjoy our conversations. Uh really nothing's going on in the world, right? No, nothing to talk about. — Just another day. Like nothing to talk about. Just shoot the Exactly. — Yeah. Yeah.
Um Yeah. I wanted to get you on the show because you you put out a couple recent reports where you've you've meaningfully changed your your allocation weightings. Uh which is really interesting to me.
Um you know, it feels like over the last few years you you very correctly faded many of the points of potential, you know, market noise, hysteria, whatever you want to call it. Um but I know you recently changed some of your core allocations. So you have a really interesting way to think about it which is just this this fundamental outlook and then this technical outlook and how those both interplay with each other to understand like where expectations lie and yeah there's a lot of drivers for how to think about those two outlooks.
There's you know these these big buckets which we'll we'll we'll deep dive into each of them but you know you have the Iran war going on and the energy crisis that's potentially ensuing from that. You have the AI buildout situation and how that reflects as being like one of the core drivers of the economy right now. you have how the Fed is reacting to that core driver and how to navigate that.
So, lots to unpack.
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Topics
- ai selloff
- federal reserve hikes
- equity risk
- fidelity crypto
- oil market diesel cracks
Companies and tickers mentioned
- 3Fourteen Research
- Fidelity
- Fidelity Digital Assets
- DAS London
- CoreWeave
- Blockworks
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