Episode summary
Interview Andrew Mcauley Youtube
Summary
Andrew McAuley argues that the value of active money management is being challenged by AI, faster information flow, and the rise of passive investing, so the key question is whether bottom-up analysis still adds enough value. He says the answer is not no, but that managers need to be more selective about where they can still find an edge.
On Australia, he says inflation remains “too high and too sticky,” with underlying inflation at 3.4% year on year and still above the RBA’s 2% to 3% target band after more than five years. That backdrop makes him constructive on the Australian dollar and supportive of investment grade Aussie dollar bonds, because higher yields imply higher returns.
He also highlights a growing concentration risk in the ASX 200. McAuley says passive flows and the superannuation performance test are pushing portfolios toward benchmark-heavy, large-cap exposure, making the market more vulnerable to shocks and less likely to reward earnings growth. The main long-term opportunity he sees is in power infrastructure tied to AI, data centers, renewables, and the renewal of existing energy assets.
Key takeaways
- McAuley says AI and passive investing are testing whether bottom-up analysis still adds value in money management.
- He says Australian underlying inflation at 3.4% means the RBA has “a lot of work to do.”
- McAuley remains positive on the Aussie dollar and overweight investment grade Aussie dollar bonds because of higher yields.
- He warns the ASX 200 is becoming more concentrated in banks, miners and other large stocks, increasing index-level vulnerability.
- He sees a long-term opportunity in power infrastructure, including transmission, substations, turbines and switches, driven by AI and data centers.
Notable quotes
“The only thing that is important now is that all that matters for adding value for money management”
“Has bottom-up analysis become redundant”
“Underlying inflation in Australia, it's too high and it's too sticky”
“So we're reasonably positive on the Aussie dollar, but higher yields means higher returns on bonds”
“we're concerned that the ASX 200 will not grow for the next 20 years to the same degree it's grown in the last 20 years”
How the episode opens
Andrew, you're moderating the keynote panel on macro shifts at our private wealth Sydney forum. What's the question you're most looking forward to putting to the room? — Yes, I think the question I'll be most interested in and I'll be putting to the room is getting the macro shifts right. The only thing that is important now is that all that matters for adding value for money management with AI democratizing the flow of information and making that flow instantaneous and passive investing becoming more and more dominant. Has bottom-up analysis become redundant?
Inflation has been stickier in Australia than many expected. How's that shaping the way you're positioning portfolios for local clients? Underlying inflation in Australia, it's too high and it's too sticky.
So the RBA measure of underlying inflation, the trim mean last printed at 3.4% yearonear. And that's relative to a target of somewhere between 2 and 3%. And inflation in Australia has not been in that target of between 2 and 3% for more than 5 years now.
So the RBA has a lot of work to do. Australia is an outlier as far as inflation is concerned. The states has it more in control.
Still on the high side but but more in control. So in terms of portfolios that differential in yields in interest rates has seen us positive on the Aussie dollar for some time. So we're reasonably positive on the Aussie dollar, but higher yields means higher returns on bonds.
So, something that we've been talking to our clients about for some time now and continue to do is being overweight or skewed in our portfolios towards investment grade Aussie dollar bonds.
Interesting. Well, that makes sense. Now, Andrew, what's a risk or opportunity you think Australian investors are underweaiting right now?
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Topics
- macro investing
- active vs passive
- sticky inflation
- australian bonds
- ai infrastructure
Companies and tickers mentioned
- UBS
- UBS Global Wealth Management
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