Episode summary
Pacific Asset Management: Built for Today, Engineered for Tomorrow - With CEO, Matt Lamb
Money Maze Podcast
· · 54 min · Guests: Matt Lamb
Summary
Matt Lamb argues that Pacific Asset Management was built to combine the best of two worlds: the fiduciary, long-term mindset of asset management and the innovation, technology and execution culture he associated with banks. He says the firm started with a clean sheet, avoided legacy systems and cost structures, and chose to focus on differentiated, hard-to-industrialize strategies rather than crowded mainstream products.
About half the business is now technology-enabled solutions for retail and adviser clients, while the other half is single-manager craft businesses run by specialist talent. Lamb says Pacific tries to be a “home, not a platform,” meaning the managers get independence, support and a collaborative culture rather than a transactional service model. That culture, he argues, helps attract talent and prevents the friction that often develops between distribution, infrastructure and investment teams.
Lamb also makes a case that technology is not a back-office cost center but a profit center. He says Pacific processes huge volumes of data, supports multiple wrappers across jurisdictions, and uses that infrastructure to scale distribution, improve reporting and launch new vehicles. Looking ahead, he thinks consolidation among asset owners, the rise of model portfolios, and better use of technology will make marginal capital move faster, while still leaving room for craft-based managers who can retain margins and differentiation.
Key takeaways
- Matt Lamb says Pacific Asset Management was designed to reward product development, technology, infrastructure and distribution alongside investment skill.
- He says about 50% of assets are in adviser solutions and about 50% in single-manager craft strategies, with total assets at $21.3 billion.
- Lamb argues that the best opportunities are in unloved strategies with provenance and scalability, not crowded mainstream products.
- He says technology is a profit center at Pacific, not a cost center, and supports 26 USITs, two LLCs, a Cayman vehicle and an active ETF.
- Lamb expects model portfolios and OCIO-style solutions to speed up marginal money flows as asset owners consolidate.
Notable quotes
“If we could create a business that rewarded product development and technology and infrastructure and that can do attitude as well as the investment management skill set and the distribution skill set”
“championing differentiation in a world of industrialization I think is what we were all about”
“what we mean by us being a home not a platform for the talent”
“the way that you maximize your margins is having the most scalable technology infrastructure”
How the episode opens
If we could create a business that rewarded product development and technology and infrastructure and that can do attitude as well as the investment management skill set and the distribution skill set, you could marriage that great fiduciary culture with that great innovation that you get from banks and you could deliver something interesting and it doesn't matter whether that's craft beer or craft food. it it it you know championing differentiation in a world of industrialization I think is what we were all about you know that was the culture that that we all joined and we still believe in very strongly today 50% of our business by assets is focused on delivering solutions for retail investors and then the other half of our business was being a fantastic home for hard to industrialized craft businesses in a world where fees are continu continue to be reduced. We need to make sure that we can maximize our margins.
And the way that you maximize your margins is having the most scalable technology infrastructures. Pacific Asset Management is an intriguing study in developing an investment manager in today's world and building it to last for tomorrows. It was a business born from the Beckwitz family long tradition of creating successful investment management firms and is run by a man whose energy and clarity of vision is impressive.
10 years from inception and with 20 billion under management, it merits examination, especially given the immense changes taking place within the investment management industry. Matt Lab, CEO of Pacific Asset Management, welcome to this Money Maze curated edition.
Thank you very much. That's the most impressive intro I've ever had. — Let's hope it doesn't all go downhill from here. So, Matt, you and your colleagues and your backers started with a clean sheet of paper.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- multi-asset investing
- investment manager technology
- margin erosion
- asset management consolidation
- model portfolios
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Pacific Asset Management
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