Episode summary
The Investment Office E14: Two Decades of CIO Wisdom
The Investment Office
· · 41 min · Hosts: Wendy · Guests: Colin Ambrose
Summary
Colin Ambrose argues that endowment-style investing is not really about chasing alternatives; it is about diversification, discipline, focus, and knowing where an institution has a competitive advantage. He says the central questions are how an idea makes money and what happens if it is wrong, because complexity only matters if it is paid for with sufficient return. He also distinguishes compensated risk from uncompensated business risk, warning that early-stage managers, strategy drift, and FOMO can create losses that are hard for a committee to tolerate.
Colin Ambrose says the model still holds up because endowments can use scale, patience, stable capital, and access across public and private markets to seek strong risk-adjusted returns over decades. He stresses process over outcome: a repeatable framework, attention to detail, and the discipline not to stretch in strong markets or panic in weak ones. For him, good investment teams are generalists who can think across the whole portfolio rather than specialists locked into one silo.
He also lays out what he wants from managers: transparency, humility, alignment, and consistency. His favorite due diligence questions are designed to test self-awareness and strategy drift, including asking why an investor should be fired. In one memorable example, a manager who said its ideal investor was one who would “give us a check and doesn’t call us” was immediately disqualified. The conversation ends with Colin Ambrose saying the best managers may even return capital when a strategy is too frothy, because character matters as much as performance.
Key takeaways
- Colin Ambrose says endowment investing is about diversification and focus, not FOMO or complexity for its own sake.
- He argues that investors should only take risks that are clearly compensated and should avoid uncompensated business risk in young or drifting managers.
- Colin Ambrose says the endowment model still works because scale, patience, stable capital, and flexibility let institutions invest across public and private markets over decades.
- He prefers generalist investors who can evaluate capital across the whole portfolio rather than siloed specialists.
- A red flag for Colin Ambrose is a manager who cannot explain why they own a security or who seems to own it only because it is popular.
- His favorite due diligence questions probe self-awareness, especially why a manager should be fired and whether they can admit mistakes.
Notable quotes
“How will this idea make us money? And what are the consequences if we're wrong”
“I think at its core the endowment approach is about sticking to your knitting and knowing your competitive advantage”
“There are no extra points for complexity or degree of difficulty on an investment”
“I think the endowment approach still holds up. It's not just about stocks and bonds”
“I want somebody who is thoughtful on their own, but really is focused on being part of a team and not being an individual maverick”
How the episode opens
Do you remember we'd spent quite some time with this manager actually. It was multiple meetings. We were still on the fence about this manager. We hadn't decided either way, but they were I would say they were still in the running. And then it was almost a throwaway question at the end of the meeting and you asked them, "What is your ideal investor?"
Yeah. — Do you remember this? — Yes. And I think they said, "An investor who gives us a check and doesn't call us." Something like that. Mhm. Yep. Think that was our last meeting with them. — Our last meeting. It was our last meeting.
Hi, this is Wendy Lee, co-founder of Ivy Invest. Welcome to this week's episode of the investment office. As always, we're here to discuss the latest in institutional investing, private markets, and alternative assets.
I'm delighted to welcome our first LP guest to the show and a very special LP guest at that. Colin Ambrose is the chief investment officer of the Mother Cabernney Health Foundation, a $4 billion foundation focused on health and health initiatives for New Yorkers with a focus on lowincome and underserved communities. Prior to Bri, Colin was the chief investment officer at U.J.
Federation of New York. And prior to that, many years before that, he was the first chief investment officer at the Giuliard School. Colin is a long tenure institutional investor with a wealth of insights, but on a personal level, there is perhaps nobody who has had a bigger impact on my career.
Colin, you've been a longtime mentor and a great friend. We've worked together for over 14 years. Um, I'm so excited for you to join me here today.
I'm really excited for our conversation. So, thank you for being here.
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Topics
- endowment investing
- institutional risk
- generalist investing
- gp-lp relationships
- fund manager due diligence
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Juilliard
- UJA-Federation
- Mother Cabrini Health Foundation
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