Episode summary
Joseph Moore: The Investments That Matter Most May Not Be in Your Portfolio
The Long View
· · Hosts: Christine Benz, Ben Johnson · Guests: Joseph Moore
Summary
Joseph Moore argues that the most important investments in a household life often sit outside a traditional portfolio: career choices, marriage, and business ownership. He traces American financial advice over 300 years and says the country’s original “go-ahead” culture rewarded people who took real risks to move up, not people who simply waited to get ahead. He also says the modern narrative of decline is overstated; in his view, the media amplifies despair because bad news gets more attention, while long-run mobility data show Americans have historically moved up faster than many assume.
Moore distinguishes gambling from risk by asking whether the investor can influence the outcome. He argues that the best risks are usually in earning power, credentials, and small business ownership, not just in stocks. He says fast financial gains often come in bursts, so investors should think about concentration, liquidity, and debt deadlines rather than assuming wealth arrives through a steady march.
He also makes the case that marriage is a major predictor of financial success because it lets two people share risk and build income together. On financial advice itself, he says the field emerged almost accidentally in the 1960s and that popular gurus can still be useful because they give people memorable rules of thumb, even if academics dismiss them.
Key takeaways
- Moore says the strongest long-term wealth builders are often career mobility, small business ownership, and marriage, not just market returns.
- He argues that American mobility has improved over the long run, even though headlines and politics push a persistent narrative of decline.
- He says real risk is something you can influence, while pure speculation such as trying to time Bitcoin is gambling.
- Moore contends that marriage remains one of the strongest predictors of financial success because it lets couples share risk and compound gains.
- He says investors should focus on concentration, liquidity, and debt deadlines to survive the market’s fast-time bursts.
Notable quotes
“if you go back through history, the idea that most of your risks worth taking were all in the market would have not made any sense to anyone”
“capitalism is a team sport and you just win more games playing on two-player mode”
“Marriage is one of the biggest predictors of financial success”
How the episode opens
Please stay tuned for important disclosure information at the conclusion of this episode. Hi and welcome to The Long View. I'm Amy Arnott, portfolio strategist for Morningstar. — And I'm Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar.
Our guest on the podcast today is Joseph Moore, a historian and author of the bestselling book How to Get Rich in American History: 300 Years of Financial Advice That Worked and Didn't, where he chronicles all of the various things Americans have tried to do to get ahead over three centuries. He's also an investor who went from being an academic to funding a tech startup, buying land on the moon, founding a cryptocurrency, and owning dozens of investment properties. So Christine, this was a really fun conversation where we covered a lot of ground about the history of financial advice in the US, as well as Joseph's own adventures in investing and money-making ventures.
And one of the really interesting things he said I thought was that who you marry is actually a really strong indicator of financial success.
I really liked that part of the conversation too, Amy, as well as his discussion of the secret role of women in household financial decision-making. I also thought Joseph's conversation of what he calls the despair industrial complex was incredibly thought-provoking.
Yeah, those were all highlights for me, too. All right, so let's roll the tape. Joseph, welcome to The Long View. — I am so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. — Well, we're excited to have you. You started out as a college professor, and I wanted to ask how did you first get involved in real estate, investing and writing about financial history and what what gave you the idea to write this book?
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Topics
- financial advice history
- career risk and wealth
- startups and investing
- bonds vs stocks
- marriage and money
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