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The Dirty Secret of ‘Top Quartile’ Funds (Goldman Sachs' Kristin Olson Explains)

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The Dirty Secret of ‘Top Quartile’ Funds (Goldman Sachs' Kristin Olson Explains) – The Meb Faber Show

Summary

Kristin Olson said Goldman Sachs’ alternatives platform now oversees more than $600 billion, and she defined alternatives broadly as anything outside public equities and public fixed income. She argued that the asset class has shifted from being mostly institutional to a much wider base of individual investors because private companies are staying private longer, growth is increasingly happening in private markets, and clients want access to that growth.

She said the current mix of interest is moving around the alts landscape. Venture and growth are drawing attention because AI is accelerating innovation, while secondaries have picked up as a source of liquidity for private equity portfolios with longer holding periods. Infrastructure is also seeing renewed demand, especially where data centers and power needs intersect with AI. At the same time, she said traditional buyout fundraising has been softer.

On returns, Olson stressed that manager selection matters more than ever. She said top-quartile and second-quartile private equity managers have meaningfully outperformed, while average portfolios have barely beaten global equities. She also warned that evergreen private credit and other semi-liquid structures can create false comfort, since quarterly liquidity is subject to gates and investor sentiment can accelerate redemptions.

Key takeaways

  • Olson said Goldman Sachs’ alternatives business manages over $600 billion and includes private equity, real assets, private credit, and hedge funds.
  • She argued the biggest opportunity in private markets is access to private growth companies, especially AI-related venture and growth names.
  • Olson said secondary strategies have benefited from slower distributions and longer private equity holding periods.
  • She warned that evergreen private credit vehicles are not truly liquid and can gate redemptions when sentiment turns.
  • She said top two quartiles of private equity managers have delivered roughly 600 basis points of alpha versus global equities, while average managers have barely outperformed.

Notable quotes

“think of anything that's not public equities or public fixed income and that can all kind of then fall into that alternatives bucket”

— Kristin Olson at 3:16

“we have over 600 billion in alternatives aum”

— Kristin Olson at 3:16

“Secondary funds have the ability to step in and really capitalize on this current dynamic”

— Kristin Olson at 13:05

“semi-liquid is a term that's used and we we don't like that term because we don't like putting the word liquid in there”

— Kristin Olson at 19:13

“you want to make sure you pick the top two cortiles of managers”

— Kristin Olson at 19:13

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Today's guest is Kristen Olsen. Kristen is global head of alternatives for wealth at Goldman Sachs, was named to the firm's management committee earlier this year. In her role, she oversees the global alternatives platform and alternatives product strategy across wealth client businesses and last year she was named one of the 100 most influential women in US finance by Barrens.

She started her career at Goldman in 1998. Kristen, welcome to the show.

Thank you. Thanks for having me, man. — 98 that was a party.

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Topics

  • top quartile funds
  • alternatives market growth
  • private credit volatility
  • manager selection due diligence
  • ai in portfolio construction

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • Goldman Sachs

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