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"Superpower Suicide" — Timothy Snyder on What America Is Doing to Itself

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Summary

Timothy Snyder argues that the current U.S. approach to Canada is not normal alliance management but a broader abandonment of statecraft. He says the people making U.S. policy now do not think in terms of the interests of the United States; instead they pursue short-term gains for a small number of individuals, whether that means pressuring Canada, the European Union, or other partners.

Snyder says the big mismatch is that Canada still behaves like a country with interests to defend, while the Trump camp treats the United States as a vehicle for private enrichment. In his view, Mark Carney’s response makes sense because it is rooted in protecting Canadian interests and in building tighter ties among democracies facing pressure from China, Russia, and, under Trump, the United States itself.

Pressed for a historical analogy, Snyder says he struggles to find one and lands on “superpower suicide” as the best description. He argues the damage is not just immediate policy error: it also weakens democracy, education, and scientific research, while making the United States less capable in the future. He adds that the people around Trump may see the post-Soviet scramble by oligarchs as a model for how power can be used to break institutions and seize resources.

Key takeaways

  • Snyder says U.S. policy toward Canada reflects a leadership that no longer thinks in terms of national interests, only private short-term gains.
  • He argues there is effectively no foreign policy anymore in the traditional sense, only the export of a predatory approach to allies and rivals.
  • Snyder says Mark Carney is acting on a standard democratic assumption: that Canada exists as a state with interests the government must defend.
  • He says democracies from Canada to Europe to Ukraine should tighten trade and political ties because the United States is now part of the threat landscape.
  • Snyder calls the broader pattern “superpower suicide,” warning that undermining science and education weakens America’s future power.
  • He says Trump-era behavior resembles an oligarchic scramble, similar to how some people viewed the end of the Soviet Union.

Notable quotes

“the people who make US policy now don't think in terms of the interests of the United States”

— Timothy Snyder at 1:27

“we don't really have a foreign policy anymore in the sense of a policy of a country”

— Timothy Snyder at 2:32

“the Carney government is doing is what they have to do”

— Timothy Snyder at 5:35

“I had to think of some other term and the term that I came up with was superpower suicide”

— Timothy Snyder at 7:54

“we are crushing our own science and we are we are weakening our own democracy for no particular reason”

— Timothy Snyder at 9:38

Topics

  • foreign policy
  • economic war
  • canada trade
  • mark carney
  • superpower suicide

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