Episode summary
We're About To Print Dow 50,000 | TCAF 221
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· · Hosts: Josh Brown, Michael Batnick · Guests: Joe Weisenthal, Tracy Alloway
Summary
The discussion centers on how the market is behaving near Dow 50,000, why the rally still feels tied to AI, and why that story may be shifting from pure narrative to proof. The hosts and guests argue that Oracle’s sharp post-earnings drop did not derail the broader market, suggesting investors are becoming more selective about AI winners and are increasingly asking whether the revenue will justify the spending. They also point to private-company influence, especially OpenAI, as a growing blind spot for public-market investors.
The conversation broadens into the Fed’s latest cut and the market reaction. A guest says the policy statement was notably dovish even with inflation still elevated, and the hosts discuss how lower rates, higher GDP forecasts, and stable unemployment are supportive for stocks. But they also note that junk bonds did not react as cleanly, and that the long end of global bond yields is being pushed by higher growth expectations, inflation, and deglobalization.
A long segment questions the rise of prediction markets and sports betting. The guests argue that these products may grow, but they are still thinly traded, vulnerable to information asymmetry, and unlikely to replace established equity and derivatives markets anytime soon.
Key takeaways
- A guest argues that Oracle’s slump did not break the AI trade, which suggests the market is becoming more selective about which AI stories deserve premium valuations.
- The hosts say the Fed’s cut was dovish even with inflation still elevated, which they think is a very supportive setup for equities.
- A guest says global yields are rising because of higher growth expectations, inflation pressure, and deglobalization that reduces productivity.
- The discussion suggests prediction markets may grow, but today they have too little liquidity to rival stocks or listed derivatives.
- The hosts argue that public markets remain unusually fair and durable compared with the more cynical narratives around gambling and market rigging.
Notable quotes
“We are less than 3% away from Dow 50,000”
“The fact that this didn't kill the vibes is really interesting played on”
“What a load of horseshit”
“inflation has risen since our last meeting and remains elevated”
“I don't want to compete against the smart people. I want to compete against the dumb people”
How the episode opens
This is gonna be amazing. Are critical. Michael and I have a plan for this episode.
Okay. We're just gonna let you guys do an odd lots and chill out. Sit back.
Can we just ask you questions? Yeah, that sounds great. Actually, we're just we're just going to hang and let you guys do what you do.
Sick. Um, how often are you in person at Bloomberg versus remote these days? Like, um, because you do a lot of shows.
Show is here all the time. I'm there basically every day. Um, is like four?
Yeah, three or four I would say. I usually go back on like either Mondays, three or four what? Three or four days in the office.
Yeah, it's not too bad. It's actually really nice having Monday and Friday episode free. Wait, where?
Go back to where? Where do you go? Connecticut.
Okay. Are you guys noticing like the city is busier and obviously it's seasonal, but Josh and I were trained today and our train is not tourists, okay? We're from Merrick.
These are people that come and that work in the city. It was literally standing room only. Like the aisles the aisles were full.
Totally. I I've thought many times just generally like if there is a recession, you will not see any evidence of it in New York City right now. Right now, New York City feels as busy as any time I can remember.
Yeah. Not just post pandemic, but period. But I will say though, there's a noticeable difference between ridership on the subways on a Monday versus like a Tuesday.
For sure. Like Tuesday, my train is totally crowded. Monday it's totally empty.
Well, we have like for a lot of people we have a 3-day in-person work week.
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Topics
- dow 50000
- ai and the market
- cash on the sidelines
- fed meeting
- money market funds
Companies and tickers mentioned
- SpaceX
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