Episode summary
MacroVoices #554 Dr. Anas Alhajji + Louis-Vincent Gave: Developing Crises in Middle-East and France
MacroVoices
· · 1 hr 40 min · Hosts: Erik Townsend, Patrick Ceresna · Guests: Anas Alhajji, Louis-Vincent Gave
Summary
The episode centers on two linked stress points: a widening energy-security shock across the Gulf, Red Sea, and Black Sea, and a fast-moving political crisis in France. The guest argues that the “three seas crisis” has permanently changed energy markets by exposing how fragile global supply chains are, especially for diesel, refining capacity, fertilizers, and agricultural trade. He says Saudi Arabia and other Gulf producers are responding with more pipeline redundancy, more optionality, and a stronger emphasis on energy security over clean-transition rhetoric.
The discussion also argues that refinery destruction is not a localized issue but a global one. The guest says attacks on refineries in Russia, the Gulf, and elsewhere are worsening a diesel shortage that cannot be solved quickly, while China’s remaining refining capacity and export controls give it unusual leverage. He also says the current geopolitical shock is accelerating China-Russia logistics cooperation in the Arctic and could reshape trade routes over time.
On France, the guest says the country is facing a classic emerging-market-style debt and legitimacy crisis inside the euro, with no easy way out because tax capacity is exhausted and devaluation is impossible. He argues that France’s unrest is tied to deep social fragmentation, rising yields, and a political system unable to choose between austerity, higher retirement age, default, or euro exit.
Key takeaways
- The guest says the Gulf, Red Sea, and Black Sea disruptions have created a permanent energy-security problem that markets have not fully priced.
- He argues that refinery outages matter more than crude disruptions because the world needs finished products, especially diesel, not just crude oil.
- The guest says China still has the key spare refining capacity, but export limits mean it can use that leverage to protect domestic prices first.
- He says France is hitting a fiscal and political wall because taxes are already too high and the country cannot devalue inside the euro.
- The guest argues that Europe’s energy and debt stresses are reinforcing each other, with Germany already reversing some prior anti-refining policy choices.
Notable quotes
“This has changed energy markets forever”
“there can be no energy future for all without energy security for all”
“The issue here is we lost many refineries in the United States, mostly in California”
“France has issued more debt than the entire African continent”
How the episode opens
When we talk about the three seas crisis, we are talking about the Gulf, we are talking about the Red Sea, and we are also talking about the Black Sea. This has changed energy markets forever. That was Energy Outlook Advisors founder Dr.
Anna Alhaji. I'm Eric Townsend and this is Macrovoices, the free weekly podcast targeting professional finance and sophisticated private investors. Episode 555 was produced on October 22nd, 2026.
Make some popcorn, folks. With crises in both the Middle East and France mushrooming this week, we decided to cover both, and that will make for a very long episode. But I think you'll find the content in both of our double-header feature interviews to be very worthwhile.
Our scheduled feature interview guest is Dr. Anis Alhaji, and the subject is the rapidly developing geopolitical situation and its impact on global energy markets. Annas and I will discuss the energy week conferences that he just attended in Riyad, Saudi Arabia, what he learned there, and the rapidly escalating refining capacity crisis that I think could threaten global energy security for many years after the wars have ended.
Finally, we'll discuss Vladimir Putin's proposal for a summit with President Trump and Xihinping, which apparently Vimomir Zalinski would not be invited to. I know many of you have been looking forward to a Macrovoic's unplugged long- form bonus session with Dr. Anis, and I'm really looking forward to that one myself.
But unfortunately, due to Honest's numerous commitments to other public speaking obligations, as well as my own suffering from bronchitis, that you can probably tell from my voice, we were unable to commit to the time needed to pull that one together for you this week. We promise to bring that episode to you the next time that we bring Honest back for another feature interview.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- three seas crisis
- middle east energy security
- global supply chains
- riyadh energy week takeaways
- france developments
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