Episode summary
$2 Trillion Debt Wave To Crush Markets, Economy, Here's When | Michael Howell
The David Lin Report
· · 38 min · Hosts: David Lin · Guests: Michael Howell
Summary
Michael Howell argues that the current market stress is being driven less by classic central-bank tightening and more by a global liquidity squeeze created by the real economy drawing capital away from financial markets. He says AI capex, higher nominal GDP, and a large debt refinancing wall are absorbing funding, which is pushing up Treasury yields, widening credit spreads, and pressuring equities even when earnings are still strong. In his view, the bond selloff is not mainly about fiscal panic; it is a response to faster growth and tighter funding conditions.
He says the Fed is trying to manage this process carefully rather than slam on the brakes, using tools such as reserve management purchases and Treasury buybacks to keep repo and collateral markets from seizing up. That does not mean liquidity is improving, only that the downside is being managed. Howell expects the pressure to remain through the coming months and says the real economy could feel the damage later, potentially in the second half of 27.
On assets, he is constructive on gold and Bitcoin as monetary inflation hedges, but only over the long run and only if central banks ultimately respond with more liquidity. He thinks bond yields may already be near a peak around 5.5% to 6%, while stock valuations still face contraction if the liquidity cycle weakens and the recent earnings boost fades.
Key takeaways
- Michael Howell says the main problem is a global liquidity drain, not simply Fed funds policy, because capital is being pulled into the real economy and AI capex.
- He argues that U.S. and global bond yields are rising mainly because nominal GDP is strong, not because fiscal headlines alone are driving term premium higher.
- Howell says the debt maturity wall plus about $2 trillion in new debt next year will make refinancing harder and keep pressure on funding markets.
- He believes the Fed and Treasury are trying to contain repo and collateral volatility with reserve management purchases and buybacks rather than trigger a 2008-style event.
- He sees gold and Bitcoin as long-term monetary inflation hedges, but says Bitcoin support around 70,000 matters if liquidity weakens further.
Notable quotes
“The whole point is that bond yields are going up because the economy is redot and a red hot economy is being fueled by the AI capex spend among other things”
“we're talking at least $2 trillion um you know next year and after probably one and a half or whatever it may be this year”
“I think that if there was evidence that the economy was was further evidence the economy was cooling or if oil prices globally were coming down, I think the Federal Reser Reserve would take that into its assessment”
How the episode opens
That cyclical downturn has probably got further to go uh and it's going to put more and more pain on the markets and it doesn't want to cause a major catastrophe. It's alert to the possibilities of another 2008. In other words, if you get turmoil in the financial markets, you're bound to get uh the real economy suffering um some months later. Uh and that may not be until the second half of 27.
Should we be holding gold in Bitcoin to protect against what the central banks are doing? Global liquidity is drying up and nowhere is that more evident right now than perhaps in the tech sector. Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang admitted that capital is scarce.
But what is the source of the scarcity and what breaks first if liquidity conditions continue to deteriorate globally? We're going to do a deep dive today on global credit conditions. what's causing the current trends and what's next for equities and bond markets where our next guest Michael Howell the founder of GL indexes formerly crossber capital and the author of Capital Wars the book and Substack and what are central banks about to do for the remainder of this year.
Right now on cash traders are predicting a 68% chance that the Fed will hike by 25 basis points in December. A $50 trade could yield $71 if you agree with those odds and you turn out to be correct. Our next guest will give us his outlook on what central banks are planning to do, not only this year, but once liquidity conditions force them to start printing money again.
So stay tuned. This video is sponsored by Couch, the largest prediction market in the United States. Unlike a sports book, you're trading peer-to-peer on real world events, from economic data to political outcomes, and the price moves based on public opinion, not a house.
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Topics
- global liquidity crisis
- debt maturity wall
- ai spending
- bond market volatility
- fed interest rates
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GL Indexes
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