Episode summary
China's Tech Stocks Crash 40%: Is Wall Street Next? | David Woo
Summary
David Woo argues that the biggest market risk is a shift from the current AI winner-take-all narrative toward commoditization, especially after Anthropic’s IPO filing and signs that AI revenue growth is slowing. He says the market is still pricing in extreme revenue expansion and high margins, while token pricing is falling and compute costs are rising, squeezing profitability for Anthropic, OpenAI, and the broader AI stack.
He contrasts the U.S. and China, saying China’s AI sector has already crashed because competition is intense and no single winner is being protected. In his view, U.S. tech valuations have gone too far on the assumption that a few dominant companies will capture all future profits. He also warns that debt markets are tightening for AI infrastructure companies as capex rises and financing gets harder.
On geopolitics, Woo thinks the odds of U.S. and Israeli action against Iran are rising ahead of the U.S. midterm election, which he believes could keep oil elevated and pressure risk assets. He says oil is being supported not just by barrels but by shipping and freight costs, and that a Middle East shock would hurt the crowded NASDAQ AI trade first. He is also bearish on France and cautious on Europe more broadly, while seeing Brazil as a possible contrarian opportunity.
Key takeaways
- David Woo says Anthropic’s growth is slowing fast enough that a $2 trillion valuation is hard to defend against incumbents like TSMC or Meta.
- He argues the AI trade in the U.S. is built on a winner-take-all assumption, but China’s competitive structure points instead to commoditization.
- Woo says rising chip rental costs and falling token prices are squeezing gross margins for AI companies even as revenue growth cools.
- He believes the probability of U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran is rising above 50% in the next one to two weeks, which would support oil.
- He says the AI trade is still crowded, so any shock from oil or geopolitics could trigger a sharper NASDAQ drawdown.
- Woo is bearish on France and Europe, but sees Brazil as a potential diversification trade after its post-election selloff.
Notable quotes
“The NASDAQ valuation right now assumes that AI is going to produce a winner take all outcome whereas I think that the most likely outcome is commoditization”
“the Chinese AI sector has already crashed. the uh star 50 index which tracks uh the 50 largest companies in the science and technology sector in China has gone down about 40%”
“I think the risk of military action against Iran over the next week or two weeks actually I would say is greater than 50%”
How the episode opens
The NASDAQ valuation right now assumes that AI is going to produce a winner take all outcome whereas I think that the most likely outcome is commoditization. What I am betting is that regardless BB wins or not or that he loses, I think we're going to see a big we we we're going to see a big increase in the probability of US and Israel hitting Iran between now and the US midterm election.
David Woo joins us once more. He's the CEO and founder of David Woo and Bound. Check out his work.
I'll link the channel in the description down below. He's got an excellent YouTube channel summarizing his own macro news and thoughts. Today, we're covering what's happening with the tech sector.
Now, the Chinese AI sector has already crashed. It's gone down 40% in the last couple of months. Meanwhile, Anthropic filed for an IPO earlier this week.
So, we're going to review actually just yesterday. So, we're going to review some of the key financial statistics and uncover the truth about the financial position of one of the largest AI companies in the West. Uh meanwhile, the Israeli elections are ongoing.
So that has geopolitical ramifications as well as well. So David Woo is going to be talking to us about that plus oil and what might happen with Iran later this week. David, good to see you.
A lot of moving parts that may impact the markets. Thank you for coming on the show today.
Thanks for having me. — Anthropic file for an IPO and uh let me just go over some key stats. So uh revenue for the first half of 2026, $16.29 billion. huge amount of revenue. But here's where it comes in that's interesting. The op the operating loss for the first half of 2026 is $693 million.
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Topics
- ai bubble
- anthropic ipo
- china tech stock crash
- ai debt risks
- iran war oil shock
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Anthropic
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