Episode summary
Gayle King Sleeps Just Four Hours a Night. How Does She Do It? | The Journal
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· · 21 min · Hosts: Lane Florsheim · Guests: Gayle King
Summary
Gayle King says her CBS Mornings schedule is built around a 3:24 a.m. alarm, three snoozes, and a reality she has reluctantly accepted. She sleeps only four to five hours a night, avoids coffee and alcohol, and says her energy comes from loving her life and “living in full gallop,” even if the routine is brutal. Her mornings are deliberately soothing rather than optimized: a bath, no breakfast, and a Starbucks white hot chocolate instead of caffeine.
She also says her work life is driven by preparation and curiosity. Before interviews, she reads, watches, and digs for the detail that no one else will find, whether the subject is John Grisham, a TV series, or a high-profile figure she has long wanted to reach. She describes her persistence as a “very polite bother,” which helped her eventually land interviews with Jay-Z, Bruce Springsteen, and Michael Jordan.
The conversation turns serious around menopause, which King says she wants to discuss openly after growing up in a time when the word itself was taboo. She says the condition is not one-size-fits-all, that she still gets hot flashes, and that the larger lesson is to keep talking about women’s health, aging, gratitude, and the value of close friendships like the one she has with Oprah.
Key takeaways
- Gayle King says she survives on four to five hours of sleep, a 3:24 a.m. alarm, and no caffeine or alcohol.
- She rejects “cold plunges and optimization” in favor of routines she actually enjoys, like baths and white hot chocolate.
- King says her interview style is built on deep preparation and relentless curiosity, which she calls “inquisitive,” not nosy.
- She frames menopause as a topic that should be discussed openly, and says it affects women differently rather than following one script.
- King says the best friendships are about loyalty, honesty, and being available at any hour, which is how she describes Oprah and her close friends.
Notable quotes
“I've just accepted that it's my reality. It's the job that I have”
“I wanna live my life in full gallop and I wanna soak it all in for as long as I'm here”
“I don't drink caffeine. I don't drink alcohol”
“I've begged, I've pleaded, I've groveled. She's not there yet, but I really wanna talk to Ella Langley”
How the episode opens
- Hello to you. I'm Gayle King, and this is "My Monday Morning. - For decades, Gayle King has appeared on TVs across America and is currently the co-host of "CBS Mornings.
She's anchored breaking news moments, conducted groundbreaking interviews, and made us laugh while we're getting ready in the morning. For her Monday morning, Gayle told me about her 3:24 a.m. alarm, her very specific Starbucks order, and why she's done being quiet about menopause.
I'm Lane Florsheim, and that's coming up after the break. This is, of course, a series about morning routines, and so I'm so excited to talk to you because as the co-host of "CBS Mornings," my understanding is that you have your very early morning down to an art. Your alarm is pretty famously set to 3:24 a.m.
- 3:24. Three snoozes. - Three snoozes.
How long did it take you to get used to that early wake-up? - I'm still not used to it, but I've just accepted that it's my reality. It's the job that I have.
I still love the job. So it doesn't do any good to moan and bitch about it because it's not gonna change as long as I have this job. But it really is brutal.
I wear this watch. I love the Apple Watch 'cause it gives you so much data, and I keep it because it shows me all the sleep I'm not getting. So I'm not healthy, Lane.
I'm not healthy. - How many hours are you averaging a night? - I don't even wanna tell you.
It's so embarrassing. Because when I say this to doctors, they go, "Oh, my God, Gayle. And then you get a whole big lecture about how it affects your brain, Alzheimer's, your heart.
But I would say four to five.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- morning routine
- sleep schedule
- menopause
- friendship
- interview preparation
Companies and tickers mentioned
- SBUX
- Starbucks
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