Episode summary
Does Show Business Still Work? | Barron's Streetwise
Barron's Streetwise
· · 27 min · Hosts: Jack
Summary
The host argues that Netflix’s latest quarter raises a bigger question about whether the streaming model still delivers the economics the industry hoped for. He notes that Netflix stock is down sharply, its $17 billion show budget produced only a 2% rise in viewing hours in the first half of the year, and management has pulled back guidance on its ad business. Even so, he says Netflix remains highly profitable, with strong free cash flow and margins that still compare well with legacy media and many big companies.
The broader point is that show business is being reshaped by attention shifts and by the rise of low-cost, high-engagement user-generated content, but the model is not dead. The host says investors should focus less on old Hollywood comparisons and more on where content budgets go further, especially overseas, and on whether Netflix’s valuation is now cheap enough to buy after a long run-up in profitability.
The second half turns to AI investing with a Franklin Templeton portfolio manager who says the market is underestimating the productivity shock from AI. He argues that tech firms will be the first and best users because their cost structures and data are AI-friendly, but he also sees opportunity in “use AI” companies outside core tech, including Spotify and Robinhood. He is less bearish than the market on memory makers, saying stronger demand in 2028 and 2029 could absorb new supply faster than investors expect.
Key takeaways
- The host says Netflix’s stock drop reflects concerns about slower viewing growth and a weaker ad outlook, even as cash flow and margins remain strong.
- The host argues that YouTube-style user-generated content is changing entertainment economics, but not killing the show business model.
- The host says Netflix’s $17 billion content spend still looks more efficient than legacy media’s budgets because Netflix is focused on streaming and overseas scale.
- The portfolio manager says the market is not pricing in a coming AI-driven productivity shock and expects faster earnings growth over the next 5 years.
- The portfolio manager expects tech companies to be the earliest and strongest AI adopters, but also sees opportunities in non-tech “use AI” names like Spotify and Robinhood.
- The portfolio manager thinks bearish expectations for the memory cycle may be too pessimistic because demand in 2028 and 2029 should stay strong.
Notable quotes
“the rate and pace of innovation in the next 30 to 40 years, or in heck, the next 5 years, is going to look a lot different”
“Netflix stock was recently down 29% for the year. It got hit again after earnings this past week”
“If Netflix isn't shining in show business, who can”
“I do not think the markets are expensive right now. I do not”
“the rate and pace of innovation in the next 30 to 40 years, or in heck, the next 5 years, is going to look a lot different a lot faster”
How the episode opens
The the rate and pace of innovation in the next 30 to 40 years — Or in hex hex 5 years is going to look a lot different, a lot faster than what we saw over the past 30 4 years. So how's that manifest?
Hello and welcome to the Baron's Streetwise podcast. I'm Jack How and the voice you just heard is Jonathan Curtis. He's a portfolio manager at Franklin Templeton with thoughts on which types of companies are cashing in on AI and still look like good deals for investors. We'll hear about that in a bit. First, we'll look at Netflix's latest financial results
And why the stock is flopping. Let's get into it. Listening in is our audio producer Emily Sounlin. Hi Emily. — Hi Jack. — Is that a high energy open? I'm exhausted already by the way. — I know, but I that's what you we got to keep it up now. You've set a high standard you have to meet it.
Look, I want to talk about comments. Let's start with this one right off the bat. It reads Emily for the win.
This is from AXK1213 and he writes, "There have been some great audio producers on the show, but wowsers, Emily is the wittiest one yet. Will there be a spin-off show with Emily as the host? If so, count me in as a future subscriber.
Uh AX, thanks for listening. I appreciate the comment. But look, let's try to keep this focused on me.
What happens is if we start lavishing praise on Emily and talking about spin-offs before I've had a chance to talk with the lawyers about my back-end percentage on ancillary productions in perpetuity, it could cause all kinds of complications.
This one's not a relative, I'm pretty sure.
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Topics
- netflix competition
- ai investing
- technology fund management
- show business business model
- media disruption
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NFLX
- Netflix
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