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Spooky Agents, Cable’s Second Death, and Stock Picks | Barron's Streetwise
Barron's Streetwise
· · 34 min · Hosts: Jack · Guests: Paulina McPadden
Summary
The episode argues that cable stocks look cheap for a reason: the industry is facing a “second death” as telecom rivals use fiber broadband, fixed wireless, and satellite to take share. The host says the first blow came from cord-cutting, when cable companies offset lost pay-TV revenue by raising broadband prices. This time, fiber is the bigger threat because it is technically superior, bundled with wireless service, and still has room to expand as availability rises toward 90% by 2030.
The show then explains “persistent agents,” a newer AI category that can keep working after users log off, use tools and connectors, and even make purchases or phone calls. The host says the market is worried these agents could hurt subscriptions, travel booking, brokerages, and other businesses, while benefiting firms with strong trust, payment rails, or differentiated products. Apple, Meta, OpenAI, Anthropic, Alphabet, Amazon, and Stripe all come up in that debate.
Paulina McPaden of Baillie Gifford says her fund looks for durable businesses with competitive advantages and long growth runways rather than early-stage bets. Her preferred names include TSMC, Hermes, and Shopify. She argues that AI spending can still make sense because adoption keeps rising, and she says Shopify’s product data catalog gives AI agents a better source of ground truth and higher conversion rates.
Key takeaways
- The host says cable is the cheapest group in the S&P 500, but he thinks low valuation alone is not enough to own it.
- Fiber broadband has 22% market share versus 56% for cable, and the host says fiber availability is expected to top 90% by 2030.
- Paulina McPaden prefers companies with durable moats and long compounding periods, not young businesses that have yet to prove themselves.
- McPaden says TSMC benefits from rising chip complexity and scale, while Hermes can compound through scarcity and pricing power.
- McPaden says Shopify may gain from agentic commerce because its product catalog provides cleaner ground truth than internet scraping.
- The host says persistent agents could create a $10 trillion stock market battleground, with trust and payment rails likely to matter most.
Notable quotes
“The thing to know about fiber broadband is it still only has a 22% market share”
“A persistent agent does not do that”
“the first agents to lure customers to share connectors will hold the advantage”
“For AI agents and AI in general to work well, they need an actual source of ground truth”
How the episode opens
For AI agents and AI in general to work well, they need an actual source of ground truth. Scraping data off the internet, sure that works fine, but you're going to miss a lot. Hello and welcome to the Baron Streetwise podcast.
I'm Jack How and the voice you just heard is Paulina McPaden. She is co-manager of the Bailey Gford International concentrated growth strategy. That means she buys stocks all around the world and not a lot of them, just the ones she really, really likes.
And she'll share some of her favorites with us in a moment. First, we'll say a few words about the cable industry's second death. And just in time for Halloween, Wall Street has a new hobgoblin.
It's called the persistent agent, and it's scarier than a wet gremlin. Let's get into it. Listening in is our audio producer, Emily Sland.
Hi, Emily.
Hi, Jack. — How much uh AIing are you doing? Have I asked you this? I'm doing more and more. I mean, um are you are you asking that uh that chatbot every day? All your uh all your tough questions.
You know what I'm asking it, Jack? I'm asking it to get off my screen in my Word doc. If you can recall, I'm full pilgrim. I I'm I'm politely abstaining and the quilting and butter turnurning is hitting its max.
It's shocking to me because I'm, as you know, a hundred years old and uh I I'm using it a ton. Like I I'm when I was a kid and you wanted to learn about something, you had to go to a library and you had to use something called a card catalog and there was a Dewey decimal system involved. And uh then I can still remember when they came out with encyclopedias on a disc and it was shocking to be able to have something on a disc that used to be on the shelf back at home.
From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →
Topics
- ai persistence
- broadband buildout
- stock picks
- cable industry shakeup
- stock market investing
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Baillie Gifford
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