Episode summary
Dr. V on AI, Market Bubbles & Finding the Next Anthropic
How I Invest With David Weisburd
· · 33 min · Hosts: David Weisburd · Guests: Vaibhav Agrawal
Summary
Vaibhav Agrawal argues that venture capital is being reshaped by the scale of private markets, the speed of AI change, and a much more active liquidity environment. He points to a roughly $5 trillion private market and says AI has only begun to affect coding, with medicine and physical automation still ahead, which makes the opportunity set feel far larger than it did a decade ago.
He says the old venture playbook no longer works because sourcing is now a media and distribution business, while exits require continuous liquidity management rather than passive waiting for IPOs. Big firms are building capital markets teams, using continuation funds, secondaries, buyouts, and M&A relationships to manage positions more actively. In his view, large firms are also drifting into broader asset management because recurring revenue and scale increasingly drive valuation.
Agrawal also argues that markups, brand, and network effects can push investors toward momentum behavior, which can crowd out discovery. He prefers early-stage “pattern breakers” over consensus bets, says consumer and fintech are oversold, and believes global founders and “fresh off the boat” repeat entrepreneurs are systematically mispriced because they sit outside the usual local networks.
Key takeaways
- Agrawal says venture is underestimating the expansion of private markets, which he pegs at about $5 trillion and still growing as AI broadens the opportunity set.
- He argues sourcing has become a media and distribution business, so venture firms now need marketing reach as much as reputation.
- He says liquidity management is now a core venture skill because companies stay private longer and investors must actively decide when to buy, hold, or sell.
- Agrawal believes markups have turned part of venture into a momentum trade, rewarding visible deals and pushing young investors toward consensus names.
- He thinks consumer and fintech are oversold today, and that investors willing to look for chaos can find mispriced opportunities before the market names them.
- He says repeat founders and internationally born “fresh off the boat” builders are often undervalued because they sit outside the standard Silicon Valley network.
Notable quotes
“the market right now is undervalued in venture”
“venture was not a media business. It was a reputation business”
“Pattern matching produces returns, but pattern breaking produces legendary returns”
How the episode opens
Dr. V, you spent nearly a decade at Lightseed before deciding to spin out. And before we started recording, you said that the market right now is undervalued in venture. Why is that?
This is something I learned from Chris Shepy who was one of the founders of Lightseed. He said the market always seems to be overvaluing technology and 10 years later you realize it wasn't. I've kind of like learned to tune these things out.
But you look at the data, right? I mean if you look at let's say 2008 2009 when I was starting my first company in the aftermath of global financial crisis the total market cap of private technology companies at that time was maybe close to 50 to 80 billion and then the largest company was Facebook 20 billion in market cap and you fast forward today we're talking about multi-trillion dollar companies we're talking about a private market that's in aggregate of about $5 trillion if somebody had said we would be sitting at a $5 trillion of private market cap even 3 years or four years ago it might seemed ludicrous, right? And here we are and mind you, we've only seen AI disrupt coding in the world in a realistic way.
Most of the revenue of anthropic and open AI are coming from coding. So whether it's medicine, engineering, physical automation when I look at the degrees of possibility, it just feels very very large. And the very rough back of the envelope math on that is market cap of the private companies versus venture capital going after those private companies.
For perspective, if back in 2008, 2009, — The top funds in Silicon Valley were probably raising like 500 to billion dollar funds. And even that was like, wow, that's crazy.
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Topics
- venture capital playbook change
- ai and pattern breakers
- market bubbles
- venture liquidity management
- fund strategy drift
Companies and tickers mentioned
- ODDBIRD VC
- Lightspeed
- OpenAI
- Anthropic
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