Episode summary
MacroVoices #556 Luke Gromen: US Midterms & Beyond
MacroVoices
· · Hosts: Erik Townsend, Patrick Ceresna · Guests: Luke Gromen
Summary
Luke Gromen argued that the Strait of Hormuz disruption has mattered less to markets than expected because China cut demand and drew down strategic reserves, while coordinated U.S. and other Western SPR releases added supply. He also said some of the most important knock-on effects may be delayed: fertilizer affordability in emerging markets could suppress buying now but set up weaker yields and higher food prices later.
He was more focused on the bond market, saying Iran only needs to outlast U.S. missile re-supply capacity to maintain leverage. In his view, the conflict is likely to keep dragging on because Iran, Russia, China, and even Israel benefit in different ways, and the pressure on U.S. politics could help decide the election.
Gromen’s biggest macro warning was that AI may create a consumer credit problem rather than just an equity-market story. He said the combination of AI-driven layoffs, $19 trillion in consumer debt, and fragile bank balance sheets could turn a productivity boom into a credit event. If that happens, he expects Washington to protect AI as a national-security priority, but only after a crisis forces the Fed to become the buyer of last resort for Treasuries.
Key takeaways
- Gromen says the Strait of Hormuz shock has been cushioned by China’s lower demand and coordinated SPR releases, delaying the market damage.
- He argues Iran’s real leverage is to exhaust U.S. air-defense missile stocks faster than they can be replenished.
- He thinks AI’s bigger risk is consumer credit: with $19 trillion in consumer debt, layoffs could quickly spill into defaults.
- Gromen expects Washington to backstop AI if the capex boom stumbles, framing it as a national-security issue.
- He says any AI-driven recession would worsen Treasury issuance so much that the Fed would likely end up buying bonds directly.
Notable quotes
“Iran doesn't have to beat the US, it just has to beat the bond market”
“The Americans burn 200 to 300 missiles a month. The Americans can only replace 100 missiles a month”
“There's only one buyer. It's the Fed. Fed's going to have to print money and buy treasuries, and they will say”
How the episode opens
There's only one buyer. It's the Fed. Fed's going to have to print money and buy treasuries, and they will say, "We're not monetizing the debt, and we're not monetizing the net.
It'll all be bull crap. That was Forest for the Trees founder Luke Groman. I'm Eric Townsend, and this is Macrovoices, the free weekly podcast targeting professional finance and sophisticated private investors.
Episode 556 was produced on October 29th, 2026. Luke Groman was ridiculed after his April 16th appearance on Macrovoices because many of our listeners thought his prediction that the straight of Hormuz could remain closed as long as early July was outlandish. Now that the straight has remained effectively closed for fully twice as long as Luke's outlandish prediction, we wanted to bring him back for an update.
And don't worry, we'll start with why the predictions that both Luke and I made for how bad the economic effects of that closure could be have so far yet to be realized. And I'm Patrick Szna. Let's dive straight into this interview.
Luke, it's great to get you back on the show. I want to cut to what I'm sure is already in everybody's mind, which is you were on this program on the 16th of April. Frankly, we got ridiculed when you said this situation in Iran could stretch out as long as the 4th of July.
People thought it was crazy. What is Luke Roman smoking to think it could possibly go that long? Well, now it's gone twice as long as that.
But the predictions that both you and I made in terms of what the consequences would be for global financial markets and the global economy, if the straight of Hormuz stayed closed for even half as long as it's been closed, they really haven't materialized in the way that we feared.
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Topics
- us midterms
- strait of hormuz disruption
- china oil demand
- strategic petroleum reserve releases
- ai credit risk
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