Episode summary
Global Economic Turning Point: One Signal Reveals What's Next | Nikolaos Cacos
The David Lin Report
· · 27 min · Hosts: David Lin · Guests: Nikolaos Cacos
Summary
Gold and copper are being framed as both defensive assets and cyclical plays on global growth. Nikolaos Cacos, CEO and president of GRG Resources, argued that the market is in the early stages of a broader commodity super cycle, supported by rising demand from AI infrastructure, infrastructure buildout, China, India, and broader economic expansion. He said gold is being sustained by risk, fear, and central bank buying, while copper remains a proxy for economic activity and still looks strong near historic highs.
Cacos said GRG’s strategy is to focus on copper and gold in South America because Chile and Argentina remain underexplored relative to North America and offer lower-cost opportunities. He highlighted the company’s flagship Adakama gold project in Chile, a grassroots discovery covering about 9,000 hectares, where surface sampling and trenching have encouraged management enough to begin drilling. He also said GRG has copper projects and joint ventures in Argentina, but the Adakama project is the main priority.
A major theme was capital allocation. GRG recently sold a 1.5% net smelter returns royalty on the Filosur project for $13 million, half in cash and half in shares, because the royalty was not being recognized in the market and the company wanted capital without further dilution. Cacos said the goal is to prove up a discovery, advance it toward prefeasibility, and then sell it to a major producer for a premium.
Key takeaways
- Nikolaos Cacos said the commodity backdrop still looks like a long-running super cycle, with AI adding demand but not creating the trend.
- Cacos said gold is being supported by central bank buying and heightened global risk, not just speculative momentum.
- He described copper as a proxy for economic growth and said its price should keep tracking expanding economies.
- GRG’s main near-term focus is the Adakama gold project in Chile, where drilling has just begun on a grassroots discovery.
- Cacos said selling the Filosur royalty for $13 million gives GRG capital to drill without further dilution while retaining some upside exposure.
Notable quotes
“It's definitely the latter in my opinion. Uh David, I I think uh you know, sure AI has been a big driver”
“I've never seen prices elevated to these levels and sustained like this for this long”
“gold is going to continue to to to go up. It's uh it's the demand for gold and and like I said, the central bank buying around the world”
“it really is a proxy in in terms of a of an economy. If an economy is growing, price of copper is growing”
“The most important ass asset right now is our flagship project which is the Adakama gold project”
How the episode opens
Gold and copper are increasingly becoming more attractive as not only safe haven assets, but a proxy to the stock market itself. But with demand rising and new mineral discoveries being harder to come by, where does the next generation of supply come from? We're going to find out and get an overview of the mining industry with our next guest, Niko Kakos.
He is the CEO and president of GRG Resources. That's ticker symbol GRG. Now, we're going to find out not only what miners are doing when it comes to prioritizing expansion and transactions, but also why Chile remains the dominant copper producer in the world.
This video is disseminated on behalf of GRG Resources. Welcome to the show, Nico. Good to see you.
Great to be here. Thank you for having me here, David.
GRG Resources has some important uh new releases and um uh and updates to give to the audience. So, we'll we'll talk about that. But first, I want to get your take on what the investor should expect from the commodity uh sector.
Now, gold, silver, copper, they're all metals, different utilities, different uh types of resources. We'll talk about yours in particular, but overall, I think I've been getting conflicting stories on my show. Some economists believe that we're in a bit of a bubble here with the AI sector and that may if it pops bring down the entire base metals complex which may actually push down investment into other metals as well.
And on the other hand uh people who believe that there is a bullish sort of pattern right now breaking out for metals believe that we're in the opening or early innings of a larger commodity super cycle. Which is it Nico? It's definitely the latter in my opinion.
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Topics
- gold outlook
- copper demand
- commodity supercycle
- south america mining
- grg resources growth strategy
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GARWF
- GRG Resources
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