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Gold, Bitcoin, Dividends, A.I., Private Equity | Barron's Streetwise
Barron's Streetwise
· · Hosts: Jack Bary
Summary
Jack Bary opens by previewing third-quarter earnings season and argues that the early bank reports look constructive. He says the big banks beat consensus on earnings and revenue, trading and investment banking were strong, and UBS expects S&P 500 earnings to rise 10% year over year. He also notes that the market is expensive at roughly 25 times projected earnings, so investors will want to see broad-based growth rather than just another narrow AI-led rally.
Most of the episode is listener Q&A. On gold and Bitcoin, Jack says both are priced in dollars but are not really dependent on the dollar, and he frames gold as a long-standing store of value while Bitcoin remains a more recent, decentralized asset. He cites Ed Yardeni’s bullish gold targets and the view that gold is acting more like a geopolitical hedge, while Bitcoin is trading more like a risk asset.
On AI spending, Jack says the key question is whether end-user revenue catches up with the massive capex by hyperscalers and private AI firms. He uses OpenAI’s valuation versus Netflix and Deutsche Bank’s data on stalled European ChatGPT subscription spending to argue that the market is still waiting for proof. He also says dividends remain useful but can be cut, and he is skeptical that private equity and private credit reliably beat low-cost public-market index funds.
Key takeaways
- Jack Bary says early third-quarter earnings look healthy, with the big banks beating estimates and UBS seeing 10% S&P 500 earnings growth year over year.
- He argues gold is more decoupled from the dollar than many assume, while Bitcoin is increasingly behaving like a risk asset rather than a pure hedge.
- He says the AI investment boom will be justified only if end users pay up; otherwise, the market may have gotten ahead of itself.
- Jack says dividends can be cut at any time for common stocks, so investors should study payout sustainability and cash-flow coverage.
- He is skeptical that private equity or private credit consistently outperform low-cost index funds, despite their prestige and illiquidity premium claims.
Notable quotes
“All four of the big ones, JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, Croup, Goldman Sachs. They beat consensus earnings per share and revenue estimates”
“The stock market looks expensive. The S&P 500 was trading recently at 25 times this year's projected earnings”
“It's hard for me to think of assets that are more decoupled from the dollar”
“There hasn't been benchmarking between the dollar and gold for more than 50 years. And Bitcoin's never had it”
“The largest hyperscalers, these big companies who are spending most of the money on AI right now, they're expected to boost their capex”
How the episode opens
Is it chilly where you are, Alexis? Is it cold right now? You know what?
It is a little cold. You know what that is? What is it?
It's this cold open that I'm doing right now. That's Yeah, that just happened. We're going to uh we're going to talk just a very quickly about earning season and then we're going to answer a few listener questions.
We've got questions on uh remind me the topics. There's one in there about gold and Bitcoin. Gold and Bitcoin, right?
We have a really timely one on AI spending, of course. uh one on dividends and one on private equity and private credit. Those are crowd-pleasers.
Uh that's uh that's a full lineup of crowd-pleasers. Let me start by saying just a couple of quick things about earning season. We're right at the start of the third quarter earning season.
When we say earning season, what we mean, there's no formal definition for it. For one thing, companies don't operate on the same fiscal year. Some companies have fiscal years that line up with a calendar year and some don't.
If you took the companies in the S&P 500 and you looked at a distribution of when throughout the year they report, you'd see that there were four main clumps of reportings and there were some stragglers in between. But we like to ask and answer the question every so often, how are earnings going? So we have to come up with some rough rules.
We used to say that earnings season began with a report from Alcoa, the aluminum company. It was the first company in the Dow industrials to report each quarter, but it got kicked out of the Dow and it split into two companies. And now we say that earning season starts when the big banks report.
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Topics
- gold
- bitcoin
- dividends
- ai
- private equity
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