Episode summary
Lyft’s Ride to Profit | Barron's Streetwise
Barron's Streetwise
· · Hosts: Jack Bary · Guests: David Risher
Summary
Lyft CEO David Risher argues the company has already completed a major turnaround: he says Lyft has gone from money-losing to profitable, from cash-burning to nearly $1 billion of free cash flow over the last 12 months, and from losing share to gaining it. He also says Lyft now has more active riders and drivers than ever, and that the market should not be viewed as winner-take-all because rideshare can support two strong players.
Risher says Lyft’s edge comes from customer obsession, competitive and reliable pricing, faster ETAs, and product launches like Lyft Silver, price lock, and driver earnings guarantees. He says the company can keep investing while still returning capital, pointing to about $993 million of cash generated and share buybacks.
On autonomous vehicles, Risher is enthusiastic but cautious. He expects a hybrid network of human-driven and self-driving cars, with broad ubiquity likely around 2030 or later because adoption, regulation, and vehicle supply will all take time. He also points to business travel and Lyft Silver as important growth opportunities, and says Lyft’s mission matters because it helps people and drivers connect in a more screen-heavy world.
Key takeaways
- Risher says Lyft has become profitable and generated nearly $1 billion of free cash flow over the last 12 months.
- He argues the rideshare market can support two winners and says Lyft is growing alongside Uber rather than fighting a zero-sum battle.
- Lyft’s competitive playbook, Risher says, is better service, reliable pricing, and incremental undercutting of competitors by about 1% to 2% when possible.
- Risher expects self-driving rides to grow gradually, with true ubiquity likely around 2030 or later because of adoption, regulation, and supply constraints.
- He sees business travel and Lyft Silver as major growth areas, and says both already have strong early adoption.
Notable quotes
“we've moved from a money losing company to a money-making company”
“I think this marketplace works super well with two players. That's what you want”
“Check lift. Check lift. Checklift”
“I think ubiquitous is going to take a while because it's limited by”
“I want Lyft to be one of the comebacks of the ages”
How the episode opens
I think Lyft is going to be one of the comeback stories, you know, for the ages. We are growing quarter after quarter. We're profitable.
We have more active riders, drivers, all the rest we've ever had before. And then I look at self-driving cars, and I see an incredible opportunity for us. Hello and welcome to the Baron Street Wise podcast.
I'm Alexis, the producer of Streetwise. The voice you just heard was David Richer. He's the CEO of Lyft.
Now, Jack is out this week, but before he left, he sat down with David to talk about the company's turnaround story and what's up next, including one day self-driving cars. Let's get into that conversation right now.
David, you've been running Lyft now for about two and a half years. Do I have that right? — That's right. Okay, let me lay it all out on the table about Lyft and about the stock and we'll do a good news, bad news, because I bet you a lot of investors want to like this stock because the valuation looks attractive. It trades at a significant discount to Uber.
Mhm.
So, the good news is, as I see it, and you tell me where I'm right or wrong, I see positive cash flow. I see growing bookings. I see the company bought back some stock.
On the bad news, the the stock performance since you took over, it's about even with the S&P 500 maybe a point or two behind, but Uber has gone bananas. Uber's, you know, tripled in price o over that uh stretch versus a 50s something% return for Lyft. I also see even though Uber is about 10 times the size, it's growing bookings by about 5 percentage points faster than Lyft.
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Topics
- lyft turnaround
- autonomous driving
- rideshare competition
- profitability path
Companies and tickers mentioned
- LYFT
- Lyft
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