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Roblox and Crocs. Plus, Van Eck On the Market | Barron's Streetwise
Summary
Roblox’s rally is tied to the viral success of Grow a Garden, a Roblox farming simulator that has driven massive engagement and a surge in bookings. The host argues the game works because Roblox users, especially kids, prefer social, blocky multiplayer worlds where they can chat, collect items, and spend real money for faster progress. Barclays analyst Ross Sandler is cited saying no other game has generated that level of engagement so quickly, but the stock may already have priced in the upside: Barclays estimates Grow a Garden adds 4% to Roblox’s companywide bookings, while Roblox’s valuation has expanded 72% since the game launched.
Crocs gets the opposite treatment: the stock has fallen even as the business still looks profitable and cash-generative. BFA Securities analyst Christopher Nardone says the company’s low valuation, high margins, and international growth potential remain attractive, and that the recent selloff was mostly about tariff concerns rather than weak demand. The host notes Crocs rose after a new Vietnam tariff rate was set at 20%.
Yan Vanek argues investors should worry more about the US deficit than the market seems to. He says government spending is propping up growth and asset prices, while gold and bitcoin have benefited as hedges. He prefers less long-duration bond exposure, more cash-like short-term rates, and says investors should generally stay in equities unless valuations get extreme.
Key takeaways
- The host says Roblox’s Grow a Garden is likely already mostly priced in, with Barclays estimating only 4% added bookings but a 72% jump in valuation since launch.
- Barclays rates Roblox equal weight and the stock trades at 62 times next year’s projected free cash flow, according to the host.
- Christopher Nardone says Crocs still deserves attention because it trades at about 7.5 times earnings with over 20% margins and strong cash generation.
- Nardone argues Crocs’ recent weakness was driven mainly by tariff concerns, and the new 20% Vietnam rate was a relief for the stock.
- Yan Vanek says the US deficit is unusually large relative to GDP and favors gold, bitcoin, and shorter-duration fixed income as hedges.
- Vanek says investors should generally stay invested in stocks, but avoid getting too concentrated in expensive mega-cap tech when valuations become extreme.
Notable quotes
“To date, there is arguably no other video game that has generated this type of engagement in such a short span of time”
“They estimate that Grow a Garden will add 4% to this year's companywide bookings for Roblox”
“The stock goes for 62 times next year's projected free cash flow”
“Crocs is the only footwear stock trading in the public markets that has a singledigit PE that's projected to grow sales positive and has an over 20% margin”
“If you look at government deficit as a percent of GDP, it's never been this high in all of US history when unemployment has been this low”
How the episode opens
If you look at government deficit as a percent of GDP, it's never been this high in all of US history when unemployment has been this low. Now, it feels good because it means that our economy seems exceptional, but that's only because we're spending so much money. Hello and welcome to the Baron Street Wise podcast.
I'm Jack How and the voice you just heard, that's Yan Vanek. He has some thoughts on the national deficit and what it means for your portfolio. We'll hear more from him later.
First, I want to talk about Roblox and Crocs. It's a video game company and a footwear maker. They don't go together.
It'll be awkward. Listening in as our audio producer, Alexis Moore. Hi, Alexis.
Hey, Jack. What kind of a gamer are you? Video gamer.
Give me your whole resume. What What are you up to? What do you get into?
Super Mario Brothers. Mhm. Nintendo DS.
Nintendo 64. Okay. That's all I got.
That sounds like it's from the way back machine. So you So you you haven't you don't game now? That's something you used to use when you were a kid.
Yeah, I uh I read now, I guess. Nerd. I'm sorry.
Sorry. That's just a That's just a reflex. I'm sorry.
Do you do any Roblox? Have you Robloxed? I've Robloxed before.
Roblox stock. That's what I want to talk about. It's up 170% in a year.
And I want to explain to people why it has to do with fake farming. By the way, Roblox would probably take issue with me calling it a video game company. They describe themselves as a human co-experience platform.
A human coexperience platform. And I love that because it could be anything. I mean, this podcast is Are you having an experience, Alexis?
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Topics
- fake farming
- jibbitz
- investing now
- roblox
- crocs
Companies and tickers mentioned
- RBLX
- CROX
- Roblox
- Crocs
- VanEck
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